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Offline wrag

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« on: August 05, 2004, 10:15:34 AM »
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

Offline demaw1

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »
COMMON SENSE..........what happened?

Offline nn76240

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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2004, 03:20:52 PM »
I would just like to say that I for one have already sent a letter and call my rep on this matter and strongley approve this bill.

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 03:36:45 PM »
Makes too much sense to ever become a law.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2004, 03:41:41 PM »
But it's worth a try to get it to become a law right.

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2004, 09:49:36 AM »
What I find odd is that so few of our citizens (and no forigners on this board it seems) know the following facts... given these facts... how can you be for any gun control other than harsher penalties for crime committed with firearms?


"However, the "Findings" section (remarkably) includes some surprising statistics. These are facts most Second Amendment supporters already know, but it is significant to see them included in an actual congressional bill as supporting documentation:

(1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following:

(A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general.

(B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities.

(C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour.

(2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following:

(A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals – more than 6,500 people a day. In other words, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.

(B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

(C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker.

(3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families' defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in self-defense. This is NUTS.

(4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers who use firearms in the line of duty (creating a privileged class). Likewise, law-abiding citizens who use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who sought to victimize them. This ‘should’ be a no-brainer.

H.R. 648 is an artfully crafted bill that even moderates in Congress should be able to embrace. Opponents will find themselves on thin partisan ice. "

lazs

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2004, 10:03:13 AM »
*shrug* works for me...but my position still stands, you dont need a m-16 to defend yourself and the harder it is for criminals to get that sort of weapon the easier it is for families to protect themselves

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2004, 10:07:43 AM »
a M-16 is not an AR-15. Ownership of a fully automatic weapon has been strictly regulated since the 1930's. Please learn the difference.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2004, 10:33:44 AM »
when was the last time an m16 was used against citizens by a criminal?   When was the last time one was used in a crime?

maybe a time or two every few years at most... hardly worth mentioning unless you are a lying scumbag, sensation seeking politician.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2004, 10:47:49 AM »
All types of firearms should be legal and distributed free to every single citizen in the world.  This would make the world a better safer place.
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 11:49:15 AM »
Hmm thought the original intent of the 2nd amendment was to protect the rights of the people from any and all that might trample those rights.

Seem to recall something about having and being able to use the current military firearm should it be necassary.

I was given to understand, in grammer school, that is the true reason behind the 2nd amendment anyway.

Sorta like the Swiss.

Gives the people some teeth :)

Oh something that helps me understand why some are so very willling to commit terrible acts is....

look in the mirror.  Smile or grin or just show your teeth.  Now start in the middle.  Don't matter top or bottom.  Count to 3 going left or right.  What tooth is that?

It's a fang, you are a preditor.

Many claim that even though we are preditors we are intelligent enough to overcome or baser instincts and not be preditory.  Hmmm just like in everything else there are always some that can not or do not want to control their preditory instincts.

Far too many seem to think CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL is the answer and want so very much to MIND OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS.

Preditors understand force.  Preditors seek the weak and single that wander from the herd.  Preditors use force to prey on their victims.

It's early and I'm just wakin up so this probably as many spelling errors etc.......
« Last Edit: August 07, 2004, 11:51:25 AM by wrag »
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2004, 12:56:42 PM »
Article is over 18 months old.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2004, 01:07:13 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
when was the last time an m16 was used against citizens by a criminal?   When was the last time one was used in a crime?

maybe a time or two every few years at most... hardly worth mentioning unless you are a lying scumbag, sensation seeking politician.


would probably be used more if you could just walk down to the nearest gun store and buy one though...thanks for supporting my point

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2004, 01:09:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Curval
All types of firearms should be legal and distributed free to every single citizen in the world.  This would make the world a better safer place.
might as well start WW3.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2004, 01:15:52 PM »
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might as well start WW3.


No way.  Ask lazs...more guns equals less crime and more saftey for all.
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