Beetle my source is nashwan.
Huh?
I don't think I said anything about the UK's rate, did I? Apart from saying about 70 people were shot dead in England and Wales last year.
Certainly our homicide rate, which includes negligent homicide, which the US figures don't, is around 700 - 1000 a year.
Down slightly last year, and the firearms homicide rate was down by 18% iirc.
The white homicide rate in America is about 5000 a year. in england it is between 750 and a thousand a year
No, we have a problem with Yardie gangs over here killing each other for control of the drug trade.
The government won't break the figures down by race in the UK, but Operation Trident, the London police department focusing on "black on black" drugs crime in London, were put in charge of 70 murder investigations last year, iirc.
beetle... you are victims... your crime rate has skyrocketed... not yours personaly... your little islands, since your draconian gun ban
Well, no it hasn't actually, but as it makes a nice headline I'm sure you'll keep repeating it.
The actual crime rate has gone down in Britain over the last ten years, the headline rate has gone up because of changes in the way crimes are counted.
you gave up your human rights for nothing... worse... you have made things much worse... Our crime rate continues to fall while yours skyrockets.
Our murder rate is down, yours has been going up for 3 years, iirc.
like england we would have to be told that resisting criminals is illegal... helping someonme being victimized would have to be illegal.
There's nothing at all illegal about resisiting criminals. You can use whatever level of force is appropriate, up to and including lethal force.
Guns are not the real problem. Despite too strict gun laws in this country there are apparently 230,000 guns in the hand of gun owners. With a population 3.5 million that is a lot of firearms per head. One for every thirteen people.
How many handguns?
And you say you have too strict gun laws, isn't that a sign they are working?
You cannot just go into a shop and buy a gun after a simple background check, can you?
And if you have a gun, it's traced to you, and you can't sell it to a crack dealer without the police wondering where it's gone.
Guns don't need to be banned to keep them from getting to criminals easily, they need to be controlled.
Lazs has quite a few handguns, from what I understand, and there is nothing to stop him selling them to neighbourhood criminals. Nothing at all.
It
may be illegal, depending on state laws, but there's no mechanism in place to stop him doing it.
I'm not suggesting Lazs would, for all the arguments on here he I don't think he's irresponsible or a criminal. But if Lazs can do it, there's nothing to stop anyone else, either.
You can tell how hard it is for a criminal to get a gun in Britain by looking at the guns siezed by police. The last I saw, almost 70% of the handguns siezed by the police from criminals (and there weren't many), were air pistols or blank firers converted to fire 22 lr.
There was a popular British garage act (think equivalent of US rap group), So Solid Crew. They had quite a few hits, big name group. A couple of shootings at their gigs. One of their members was caught by police with a handgun. Again, a converted airpistol firing 22 lr.
For all the "mate of a mate of a mate", the best a multi millionaire garage group involved in the drugs and club scene of London could come up with was a converted airpistol.
