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Offline bozon

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« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2004, 05:47:29 PM »
I know nothing about the ki84, but from those numbers it will destroy F6f and P47s with ease. F4U will have some hard time down low and so will the P38s.

what time did it enter service? wasn't its natural enemies F4u-4 P51D and P47N by that time?

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« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2004, 05:48:01 PM »
From what I have read here, the Frank will be an intresting plane.

My fighting style is to climb out to about 12K, locate the fight, find a cherry, swoop down, make the kill or break off, get back on perch, wait for another cherry, then take 1 or 2 scalps home before the fuel runs out.  Great for your K/D, but not your K/Time, or K/Sortie.  

But that is how I like to fight.  That would make me a (totaly) shameless-cherry picking-alt monkey- Pony (or LA7) dweeb  :rofl

So I doubt if I will switch to the Frank.

However it is exciting that HTC is now getting some new planes.  :aok

BTW, I like my Franks with mustard :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2004, 06:05:14 PM »
Bozon,

It entered service in April, 1944.
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« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2004, 06:05:37 PM »
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I know nothing about the ki84, but from those numbers it will destroy F6f and P47s with ease. F4U will have some hard time down low and so will the P38s.

what time did it enter service? wasn't its natural enemies F4u-4 P51D and P47N by that time?

Bozon



If it's modelled similarly to WB it was a hog-killer, dead meat, can't run, can't hide, can't outfly , and a fairly tough fight for an F6-F, at least you had some chance of turning with them.


The guys in PAC time flying combo hordes of Ki-84s and niki's will be very challenging to say the least. Individually either plane can be handled tactically, but flying together in large groups well  that's another thing.
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« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2004, 07:12:57 PM »
Kweassa, I think your assumption is faulty... check out the Spit 5's totals for the past few tours.  Unless I'm mistaken, the linear drop in Spit 9 use is balanced by a linear rise in Spit 5 use, which suggests to me that Spit 9 pilots are moving to the slower but more manueverable spit 5.  

You are right about the Japanese player base moving to the La-7, I've noticed that to in the mornings when I play.
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« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2004, 10:12:09 AM »
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Bozon,

It entered service in April, 1944.

thanks. I thought it was one of those late 1945 planes. Very good preformance for an early 44 ride, must have been a nasty opponent when it entered.

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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2004, 05:08:51 PM »
perk it ...its just like a F4U-1C only faster and could have better guns ;/
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« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2004, 05:19:24 PM »
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 A 'sudden gust of wind' is probably more like it.



Sounds like a fart to me ;)
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« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2004, 05:43:14 PM »
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perk it ...its just like a F4U-1C only faster and could have better guns ;/


What???

Its slower and it will have less powerful guns...

What plane's performance are you morons looking at when you ask for thes KI-84 to be perked even before it gets into the AH2 arena...
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« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2004, 06:08:48 PM »
Easy there GRUNHERZ.  The WBIII Ki-84 is faster on the deck than the AH F4U-1s and WBIII F4U-1s.  Or so I am told.

No arguing with you about the power of the guns.  Ho-5s are good, but they're not power guns.
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« Reply #70 on: August 11, 2004, 08:15:23 PM »
Speaking of Ki-84s vs P51s

http://www.angel.ne.jp/~tochy/airplane/1945/1945.mpg


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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2004, 09:46:03 AM »
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If it's modelled similarly to WB it was a hog-killer, dead meat, can't run, can't hide, can't outfly , and a fairly tough fight for an F6-F, at least you had some chance of turning with them.


Hiya Redd :)

Agreed, if they are modelled similarly they'll be a pain for the F4U flyers. A good fight for the F6F's if you get'em turning. If I remember right they had pretty poor high speed handling.

In a furball, flying a Zeke or F6F, they were high priority target :)
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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2004, 10:36:25 AM »
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599 was better known as "Anything Goes" and was flown by Captain Pete Nowick

You can see it as the trailing Mustang in the image included showing them near Iwo Jima where they were based.

Notice the artist messed up a bit by forgetting the twin antenna on the fuselage and the single under the nose that was a mod done to the Iwo 51s to give them a directional locater back to Iwo for the long over water flights.
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So what's the importance of the striping on the wings?  Is that for orientation?  I know some stunt pilots use that trick as a guidance tool for loops and such by lining the stripe up with the horizon.
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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2004, 11:33:26 AM »
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So what's the importance of the striping on the wings?  Is that for orientation?  I know some stunt pilots use that trick as a guidance tool for loops and such by lining the stripe up with the horizon.


I've seen it described two ways.  On the Recce Mustangs it was used to line up the camera angles, and on the fighter/bomber Mustangs it was used to line up the dive angles.

As these guys carried rockets and bombs at times, I would assume it's for the latter.

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