New idea what do you ladies and gentlemen think.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Therefore is should now, and forever be referenced as ...

The "Delirium Factor" ... hey Del ... your FAMOUS !!!  

LOL SlapShot, make that inFAMOUS when people cant select their favorite ride.  Do you realize what you just did to poor Del?   ROFL

[Achttag]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Not to worry Achttag ... you'll just be flyin Spit I's all the time ...  

I could live with that.

At least one must have been captured...where's my history book...hmm

En 830used by 131 RAF Sqn which was missing over France in August 1943. Captured by Germans in good condition was tested in Rechlin. Later (when ?) was sent to Daimler Benz factory in Echterdingen near Stuttgart. Original engine was removed and DB 605 installed.

I especially like the last bit

Skin commission anyone?

Achttag
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[Karnak]

Achttag,

As someone who likes German aircraft you'll be least affected by HTC's solution.


Well, I guess an Italian fan would be even less affected.  You stand to lose the Fw190D-9 and Bf109G-10 on occasion.

[Achttag]

Hello Karnak

Nice to hear from you. Take care

Achttag
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[GODO]

Of course, no time to read all the posts. IMO, the original idea is not good at all. Usually, the country with more players is gangbanged by the other two, or 2 countries gangbanging the one with less players. In terms of balance, the country between the one with most players and the one with less players has an advantage.

I would bet for an attrition system to give the less populated teams a real chance to win the war even losing terrain.

[Muddie]

.S Delirium

Originally posted by Murdr
Kweassa and I were also fielding ENY based approaches, but Delirium was the one to say disable them.  In game terms, I think he got the kill and some others got assists

[Muddie]

Chill dude.  You'll be able to fly Rook, just maybe not your favorite ride is all.  HT is going with a modified/different version of the idea.

Originally posted by Achttag
No to denial of time to your chosen country. Sorry, but I cannot be objective about this.

I have only ever flown for Rooks, and have no wish to be a part of any other country, ever. It's so bad I don't care for scenarios or two country CT because theres a fair chance of not being Rook.

I have only limited time for AH, and would be deeply unhappy if part of that time was crippled in this manner.

There are insufficient derivatives of F words that can begin to express how truly FUBAR this idea is.

Achttag
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[Achttag]

Ouch, quoted again. OK, my apologies for flying off the handle.

HT, no offence intended.

Achttag
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[MOSQ]

HT,

I'm against limiting a player's time or the planes he/she can choose.

I've seen the perk plane system work as it should, the result being hordes of 262's and Tempests effectively blunting an assault from the high numbered country. Perhaps a little more tweaking here that makes perk rides even cheaper for the outnumbered country would fix the problem.

One other possible solution:
Have the numbers affect scoring, not just perk points. The outnumbered side would get higher score points. This might have the effect of pulling the score hounds to the lowest numbered country each time they logon. Nothing like having the "top" 100 players constantly switching to the outnumbered country so they get that extra score advantage to help balance the arena.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by MOSQ


(editted to not confuse point) z

One other possible solution:
Have the numbers affect scoring, not just perk points. The outnumbered side would get higher score points. This might have the effect of pulling the score hounds to the lowest numbered country each time they logon. Nothing like having the "top" 100 players constantly switching to the outnumbered country so they get that extra score advantage to help balance the arena.  

This is a good idea I think

[SlapShot]

MOSQ and Kanth ...

Ya need to go back a page or two.

It has been decided !!!

Planes will become UNAVILABLE (in ENY order - lowest first) as the number imbalance grows.

Case closed.

[Simaril]

Case closed -- but I think this is a GREAT idea. People get to fly, teh lethality of the swarm country is reduced, and there's pressure applied to get numbers to switch. JSO can still happen -- but will require even more strategic planning to maximize impact. With time, numbers equalize as non-random pressures are applied. Solution works moment by moment to allow pressures to apply both to long and short term trends.

GREAT solution, Delerium et al. -- and salute to HiTech for listening, being creative, and being open to new ideas.

[DREDIOCK]

I Dont see how it (the Eny thing) will change anything other then the planes being flown. Unless I have somehow read it wrong.
And the way Im am reading it now is  super planes like the PonyD will be disabled forcing the larger numbers to fly lesser planes. Is that the idea?

And 200+ of anything Even P40's  is still a horde.

But it will get now seldom used planes flying more.

Assuming I am reading it correctly with all due respect  I dont think its gonna make a difference and am predicting that now.

Though I honestly hope I am proved wrong

Time will tell

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I Dont see how it (the Eny thing) will change anything other then the planes being flown. Unless I have somehow read it wrong.
And the way Im am reading it now is  super planes like the PonyD will be disabled forcing the larger numbers to fly lesser planes. Is that the idea?

And 200+ of anything Even P40's  is still a horde.

But it will get now seldom used planes flying more.

Assuming I am reading it correctly with all due respect  I dont think its gonna make a difference and am predicting that now.

Though I honestly hope I am proved wrong

Time will tell

I tend to agree dred.
But anything is better than nothing.
And it will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I think HTC's desired effect is to get players to switch sides and even the numbers.
I am axious to see the results of this idea.

[ply]

Our squad flys ponys because thats what the real 339'th flew.  So now no matter what country we choose we will have our ride disabled at times. You probably have disabled our squad nights with this idea. And you certainly have stopped our squad from flying missions in the RJO's. First it was getting rid of night, then limiting large maps. After that it was not allowing fuel to be reduced. I see a trend here that is forcing people to fly a certain style and discourge other styles. Sorry Hitec, it's your game but it's my money and I'm not spending it to fly in a perpetual furball.  

To the guys I've flown with and against:
Your conversation, antics and friendship have been a source of real pleasure for me. I wish you all well.