Author Topic: Every Man For Himself - High (Read 2754 times)

Delirium · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:01:43 AM »

The Rooks had numbers again this weekend, albiet without the more common planes one normally sees when fighting them. I know its early, but from what I can see its not working thus far.

Could HTC in the meantime allow people to switch teams more often than only once in an 8 hour period? In an 8 hour period the numbers can fluctuate wildly and it may help encourage people switch around.

hawk410 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:04:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
We already have a score factor/multiplier, it didn't encourage anyone to move.
Anyone think of the poor newbie on his 2 week free account if they perk instead of disable? At least at the moment he has the option to change sides, perking them just puts the poor guy in even more trouble. Result - 2 week free trial, bye bye.

What about the guy whos sees the ad for Aces High on the Discovery Wings Channel after seeing a program about his favorite WWII plane the P51. He says to himself i want to try to fly that plane online, he signs up an can only get the P40 ( as an example) lost before he gets out of the tower...

JB42 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:13:27 AM »

It really comes down to this, for some reason more people CHOOSE to fly Rooks. Whether it be for the numbers advantge or because perhaps flying for Knights and Bish is not as much their cup of tea. Regardless the reason, HiTech has decidied to penalize us for this.

I think the only way to solve the numbers imbalance is get the Bish/Knits to make flying for their "country" more inticing.
Its obvious that droves of players from the Knights and the Bishops have no problem country switching or leaving without any hesitation. I and many other Rooks, in contrast, have no desire to leave Rooks.

But hey, its the 21st century, lets put the blame where it really belongs. Knights and Bish cannot keep up with the numbers of the Rooks, so it must be the Rooks fault, penalize the Rooks.

Hyrax81st · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:20:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Actually thinking about it, if the Rooks spread their squads out throughout the week you probably would be affected very little by the modifier. Or is it you enjoy the big number disparity that much.

It's confusing - a little bit. In other threads, some non-Rooks say it's the numbers every day that are a drag... others are saying it's the squad night, or RJO. I suggested there may be server statistics that actually show the numbers (by country) vary quite a bit during the day and across the rolling time zones. Is the problem of numbers imbalance world-wide ? or just USA "prime time" ? Server stats would show...

Speaking for myself - and some others I know - there are lots of squaddies and other Rooks who are married (with kids) and working adults. Sunday night was the best night for our squad to be able to fly together - by vote.

It's not a number disparity preference for us, it's a "when is it most convenient for us to all fly together during the week" choice, and a squad association choice (that happens to land us in the Rook country), as well as our plane of choice.

schizer · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:22:36 AM »

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Originally posted by hawk410
What about the guy whos sees the ad for Aces High on the Discovery Wings Channel after seeing a program about his favorite WWII plane the P51. He says to himself i want to try to fly that plane online, he signs up an can only get the P40 ( as an example) lost before he gets out of the tower...

I see this as a more plausable sitiuation

phookat · « **Reply #50 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:12:14 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Translation: We've named our squad after a WW2 mustang squad. We were hoping that this empty gesture would trick you into letting us fly the P51D whenever we want.

LOL, nice list beet1e. This is the one that I think is the lamest so far. As if the RL squad would quit if supplied with 51Bs for a week.

phookat · « **Reply #51 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:17:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Warp
Does anyone remember when we had the most balance in team numbers? It was when the squads, or most of them, had semi-regular team rotations. It got to the point that many CO's were talking to each other to figure out where the other squads were moving this tour or this month so the numbers were mostly balanced. It wasn't originally setup that way, but it evolved into that and it worked well.

Another benefit was that everyone got to know each other better. The atmosphere was much more "friendly", not like the maliciousness I see now. I am seeing references in recent posts about letting people die in a furball if someone changes teams because they don't know anyone and "hate" other players on those teams. I think that is really sad. It's a game, have fun and quit taking everything so seriously and personally.

Most know that I recently left the AK squad so that I can switch around to the other teams. I tell ya, the last couple weeks have been an absolute hoot. I worried a lot less about the "numbers" and had a lot mre fun flying WITH everyone else instead of worrying about killing those same guys or getting killed by them.

Sure, everyone still gets frustrated, but I find my frustrations to be a lot more centered on issues with the game and the internet than with any one particular player or what they are doing.

I was also pleasantly surprised that the other teams welcomed me the way they did. I hung out with the JB's for a while and had a blast. I hung out with the nits for a week or so and it was a hoot. It was interesting to fly AGAINST the bish for a change.

I really would like to see the squads rotating again en masse. I think it would gravitate back to the way things were...numbers would balance better and I think everyone as a whole would have a lot more fun and a lot less frustration and anger. HT's newest "system" for balancing sides is just a testament to the centric nature that has pervaded the game.

Nice post Warp

dtango · « **Reply #52 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:46:48 AM »

Phookat:

As if a RL squadron would have their P-51D's pullled to be replaced by their P-51B's? Hmmm.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

humble · « **Reply #53 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:50:12 AM »

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humble: - ah, thanks for the clarification.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

I've never had anything but respect for you guys, every once in awhile you'd actually even stick around and rumble a bit. Thats why I'm a bit confused...you always appeared to be a "mission 1st" type of squad...so...I'd think the "plane limiter" would be less of an issue. Yes the "B" pony is more limited in a JABO role..but it's as good or better as a "cover" fighter. Given the "mission profiles" you guys fly (my recollection) you can easily substitute Jugs, 38's (and still be "in theater") or hogs to accomplish your goals.

I also understand the "loyalty" issue...I flew "A land" my entire time in every flavor of AW and Knight for the vast majority of my time in AH...but many seem to be "piling on" to the "winning" side...those of you really dedicated to flying rook can adapt and the others will migrate...is the plan a great one...probably not...is it something that will work...yup...is there anything better...not that I've seen mentioned...did SOMETHING need to ne done...100% for sure.

One of the few times I agree 100% with HT & Pyro...

Truely one of those "For the good of the game" actions.

humble · « **Reply #54 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:55:48 AM »

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Originally posted by dtango
Phookat:

As if a RL squadron would have their P-51D's pullled to be replaced by their P-51B's? Hmmm.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

Actually many of the pony drivers...including Chuck Yeager...prefered the B pony and argued to keep it. It was considered by many to be the better plane. I believe it lacked the extra fuel tank (behind pilot) that the D pony had (might be wrong here). This is what allowed the implementation of the tactics that eventually won the air war on the western front.

Karnak · « **Reply #55 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:04:06 AM »

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Originally posted by dtango
As if a RL squadron would have their P-51D's pullled to be replaced by their P-51B's? Hmmm.

AH does not have a rolling planeset, so there is no progression to fall back on or advance to. Without that, each time you take off should be considered it's own sortie, unrelated to any other sortie.

For your argument here to work we would need a rolling planeset, something that would deny you access to the P-51D 80% of the time.

dtango · « **Reply #56 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:08:23 AM »

Later model B's had the fuel tank modifications made in-service. Also the dorsal fin addition made the B's and C's more stable but took away the ability to make some nasty evasive maneuvers.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

dtango · « **Reply #57 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:11:55 AM »

Karnak - I didn't intend an argument there

. I was just poking fun at the idea that if you take RL scenarios as your frame of playing then your D's probably wouldn't get pulled for B's.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

Widewing · « **Reply #58 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:18:15 AM »

I worry about this strange concept of country loyalty. I also worry about the idea of people clinging to relationships with people they probably never met and go through the emotional equivalent of a divorce when faced with the possiblity that they may have to play this game with some other unknown voice on the radio. It's flat-out strange!

Some of you guys are simply fu&#ed up! LOLOLOLOL

For cryin'-out-loud, turn off your computer, go out and meet people, create some real relationships and put this game into perspective! If a simple game can torture you this much, seek professional help.

My regards,

Widewing

dtango · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:18:49 AM »

Humble -

Sorry I missed your other post. Actually we rarely do the mission thing. We've been accused of being a furball squad by guys who thought they were joining a strat squad.

We're primarily about A2A plain and simple. The teamwork I'm speaking about is at the tactical level - a 2-ship element working in beautiful concert, a 4-ship flight working in harmony with another 4-ship flight etc.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs