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Offline KBall

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« on: August 28, 2004, 02:48:21 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130325,00.html


— Wasn't wounded by hostile fire.

— Wasn't even under fire by the enemy.

— "Nicked" himself with a grenade launcher and "requested a Purple Heart" afterward.

If Schachte's version is accurate, Kerry would not have been eligible for the award, the first of the three Purple Hearts he received.>


I think Kerry better distance himself from Vietnam very quickly. His campaign running on his military service is creating quite a large hole to climb out of. That hole is getting deeper by the day.

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2004, 02:59:45 AM »
Seems to be as many stories as there are tellers.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2004, 06:53:58 AM »
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— Wasn't wounded by hostile fire.


He believes so, but doesn't know for sure. Hard to hear enemy fire when your own weapons are going off.

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— Wasn't even under fire by the enemy.


How can he be so sure?

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— "Nicked" himself with a grenade launcher and "requested a Purple Heart" afterward.


He makes an assumption about the schrapnel. Still not proven as to the source of the schrapnel. Kerry as can any individual in a hostile action can request all the awards they want. It takes another, usually senior officer to actually send a recommendation.

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If Schachte's version is accurate, Kerry would not have been eligible for the award, the first of the three Purple Hearts he received.>


If Schachte's version is accurate as to Kerry getting hit by the schrapnel from ricochet from his own round, Kerry still qualifies for the award. No where does the qualifications of the Purple Heart exclude self-inflicted (read that as not on purpose) wounds when involved in a hostile action. IIRC.

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I think Kerry better distance himself from Vietnam very quickly. His campaign running on his military service is creating quite a large hole to climb out of. That hole is getting deeper by the day.


Strategically, it makes sense for a Democrat to bring his military service to the forefront as the Republicans have generally received the most support the average pro-military voter.
Kerry has nothing to be ashamed of as to his wartime combat service, no need to hide it.

It's too bad that Kerry doesn't seem to have a stellar record as a Senator. It just seems ordinary, nothing special. He promises a lot but I wonder how much his programs will cost and how they will actually be funded. Main difference is which party cares about having a deficit.

If he wins, it'll be more a vote against Bush, rather than a vote for Kerry (or so it seems).

For those that supported Bush the last election, what qualifications did he possess? What were his specific stands on the various issues? What were his plans to tackle those issues?

Welcome to politics folks! The Republicans and Democrats are closer than you think ;)
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2004, 08:56:13 AM »
subaru... Bush got a lot done as a governor and was well liked by both parties.   It seems that he has gotten a lot done as president and pretty much kept his promises.

kerrie will pay for all his programs and government jobs and more tax cuts for the poor (do the poor pay taxes?) and the middle class by....... taxing the rich..

wonder what their rate will be to pay for all this crap?   How we gonna pay for all his socialist programs years from now when they grow even bigger... as is the wont of government programs...

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2004, 09:16:27 AM »
The worst is yet to come for the Winter Soldier.

Cod, I bet his campaign is tired of talking about VN.

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2004, 11:37:44 AM »
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subaru... Bush got a lot done as a governor


He did?
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2004, 01:37:44 PM »
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subaru... Bush got a lot done as a governor and was well liked by both parties. It seems that he has gotten a lot done as president and pretty much kept his promises.



Please enlighten us!!!

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2004, 01:40:38 PM »
Bush said Kerry's service was honorable and should'nt be attacked. I thought it was unamerican to disagree with Dubya.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2004, 01:42:49 PM »
Wheres Schachte's after action reports for that day. Personally I think all these guys coming out and speaking 35 years later to slander Kerrys record  are total liers.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2004, 01:47:55 PM »
If one of my former shipmates runs for office as a republican...
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2004, 02:21:42 PM »
I guess it's perfectly normal to receive 3 purple hearts and not miss a day of duty.

Doesn't that bother any of you Kerry freaks? And that's just the tip of the iceburg for this liar. Kerry is a slug.

He says he's in Cambodia on in 1968, then someone calls him on it so he changes his story...now it was a "secrete" mission. What a joker.

He says he doesn't own an SUV...his "family does. He says he's "the man" for making America safe, yet missed every intelligence briefing in the entire year after 911 and 76 % of all public meetings overall.

He rarely does his job in the Senate. He sat for 20 years in the Senate and what has he done?

He chastised Bush for not acting for 7 minutes after the second plane hit the WTC, yet admitted he sat "unable to think" for 45 minutes after the second plane hit, until he was told to evacuate the building.

He says he witnessed and participated in war crimes in Vietnam, yet only decided to report them once he was before the Senate reading a speach he did not write on the subject AFTER he had long since left Vietnam.

He says that "earth day" is not something you practice one day a year, "it's a lifestyle" while he himself heats and cools 5 mansions, fly around with 2 private jets and tools around in a 100 foot yatch. He probably is responible for more energy use than 1000's of normal Americans combined.

Kerry has never decided to pay a voluntary increase in state income tax in his home state, yet says the the wealthy are not paying their fair share of taxes.

I could go on all day. The guy is a pathetic joke and will lose in a landslide NO DOUBT about it. Wait and see.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2004, 02:29:55 PM »
Kerry is VOSS

if you compare the two you will see their score whoring and self preocupation is identical.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2004, 02:38:07 PM »
You simply need top bring up the issue of economics again. Where is the US heading in 15-20 years. Sort of makes the swift boats issue seem so unimportant when your kids will be paying for your mistakes.

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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2004, 02:43:19 PM »
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You simply need top bring up the issue of economics again. Where is the US heading in 15-20 years. Sort of makes the swift boats issue seem so unimportant when your kids will be paying for your mistakes.


I agree, it would be a huge mistake to elect Kerry. I'm not even slightly concerned that Kerry could be elected though, because it's not going to even be close.

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2004, 02:45:07 PM »
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subaru... Bush got a lot done as a governor and was well liked by both parties.   It seems that he has gotten a lot done as president and pretty much kept his promises.


What specifically did he accomplish as a governor of Texas? Try not to be vague.
I was talking only on his record and actions as Governor of Texas - "For those that supported Bush the last election, what qualifications did he possess? What were his specific stands on the various issues? What were his plans to tackle those issues?"

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kerrie will pay for all his programs and government jobs and more tax cuts for the poor (do the poor pay taxes?) and the middle class by....... taxing the rich..
wonder what their rate will be to pay for all this crap?   How we gonna pay for all his socialist programs years from now when they grow even bigger... as is the wont of government programs...
lazs


Does an astronomical deficit bother you?
The rich should be exempt from paying taxes?
What's a fair tax rate?
Let's start with the poor and work our way up.
What programs are necessary for us as a nation to succeed? Which programs should we get rid of?
Who's gonna pay for them? Right now we have a huge deficit spending by the Republicans that is out of control. It's not working. Now if that doesn't bother you, why not eliminate taxes all together?
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