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Offline Zazen13

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« Reply #225 on: September 07, 2004, 09:45:07 AM »
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Your right Zazen, Im neither creative nore do I  give anything any thougt. Btw nice flame in disguise.


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HiTech, you are being overly sensitive, this is not a flame of any sort. It is constructive crticism with one aim only, to provide you with the basis for some 'alternate' solutions to problems you may have perhaps overlooked, ignored and/or disregarded for various hitherto unknown reasons.

We both have the exact same objective, we are not at odds, we are both actually working to achieve the exact same end. That is the most enduring success possible for HTC's one and only marketable commodity, Aces High II.

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« Reply #226 on: September 07, 2004, 09:51:37 AM »
Not being over sensitive Zazen but It apears to me when your argument isn't working, you change the argument to HiTech just needs to think more creativly.

I also disagree we have the same goal.

You have other goals than HTC.I do not belive your goal is to make AH the MOST fun for the MOST people. I belive your goal is to make it the most fun for you. While you might belive your goal is the same as mine, they realy are different.

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« Reply #227 on: September 07, 2004, 10:09:46 AM »
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Not being over sensitive Zazen but It apears to me when your argument isn't working, you change the argument to HiTech just needs to think more creativly.

I also disagree we have the same goal.

You have other goals than HTC.I do not belive your goal is to make AH the MOST fun for the MOST people. I belive your goal is to make it the most fun for you. While you might belive your goal is the same as mine, they realy are different.


I'm not sure how you can read what myself and the poster I quoted above and come up with that erroneous conclusion. Adding strategic elements to the game that goes beyond its current scope to encompass elements that would have a direct and postitive impact on gameplay balance and more diverse and interesting ramifications on numerical disparities is ALL ABOUT MAKING AH MORE FUN FOR MORE PEOPLE.

How, curtailing options based solely on one, isolated set of raw data that  to, put it very generously, has a very limited effect on numerical disparities and little if any positive effect on gameplay option serves to make AH fun for more people is beyond my understanding and that of a good portion of your paying customers.

What we are offering you is possibly tenable solutions to an impediment to our joint goal of 'democratizing' the fun-factor that do not necessarily entail gameplay restrictions, but rather uses gameplay enhancements both in terms of scope and breadth of design to achieve that very end in a way potentially much more amicable and interesting  way to a much  broader portion of your clientele, actual and potential.

I really have no 'personal' motive to forward any agenda or idea over another. I, personally, will have fun and be successfull regardless of whatever gameplay restrictions you arbitrarily impose. However, that is not true of the vast majority of your paying customers, they are paying a heavier price for your expedient, stop-gap measures, undoubtedly losing a good many of  them as customers/revenue permanently.

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« Reply #228 on: September 07, 2004, 10:20:23 AM »
Zazen: Althow I agree with your phisphical statement, I do not belive the suggestion put forth fufill the the requirements.

I.E. You jump to the conclusions that the ideas put forth meet the requirements, and make for better game play. In most of the ideas put forth I do not agree with that assesment.

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« Reply #229 on: September 07, 2004, 10:26:51 AM »
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I totally agree with this poster.

The easy, most expedient route has been taken

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actually, the easiest route would have been to simply throw in code that blows everyone up and locks them in the tower everytime the sides are uneven, and keep em there till it even outs.

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« Reply #230 on: September 07, 2004, 10:27:07 AM »
ROFL ...Zaz, bought ya a new dictionary, huh? :rofl
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« Reply #231 on: September 07, 2004, 11:23:49 AM »
True story :P
I upped my la7 from a capped field (figured i'd take advantage of current eny situation) to kill the 7 goons ib. A pack of 10 spit 1's jumped me from a 5k alt advantage after i dodged the 5 tbm's vulching. I made my way to the goon's despite a wall of .303 lead trailing me...only to have a ju87 and 4 other p40's cherrypick me while making a pass on the one goon i could get to. The goon driver turned into me and rammed me. "Fear the P40!!!!!!" was typed on ch.200 by a gloating , highly skilled "real pilot" who sprayed my wreckage despite a great ditch by me. Oh well. The rooks should be congratulated for winning despite the eny value handicap. wtg.

Made a post on this real story but my title wasnt interesting enuff. Should of called it "Oh my god look at this hacker!" or something.

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« Reply #232 on: September 07, 2004, 11:46:21 AM »
That story would be believable except for one thing. C47's have too high an ENY ... you would have seen JN-4 Jenny's in a formation - with the troops riding on the wings and jumping off as the biplane made a slow, low-level pass on the city.

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« Reply #233 on: September 07, 2004, 01:00:08 PM »
Hitech,

This ENY change was pure genius. You have raised the bar on conversation threads. Now I look forward to reading the BBS.:)  I hope when it gets boaring again you'll make another change to keep em complaining. Thanks for all of this fun.:aok
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« Reply #234 on: September 07, 2004, 01:07:37 PM »
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Zazen: Althow I agree with your phisphical statement, I do not belive the suggestion put forth fufill the the requirements.

I.E. You jump to the conclusions that the ideas put forth meet the requirements, and make for better game play. In most of the ideas put forth I do not agree with that assesment.


explain the requirements in non-coder english, and let's see what we can come up with then.  just an idea...  :)

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« Reply #235 on: September 07, 2004, 01:08:06 PM »
How bad were the ENY disbalements? like 40 or something?

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« Reply #236 on: September 07, 2004, 01:13:48 PM »
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How bad were the ENY disbalements? like 40 or something?


I'm not sure what number it maxed out at, but it was very close to 40 if not exactly that.  I noticed we weren't allowed to fly:

B-17s, B-26s (Lancs were available, though :rolleyes: :lol)
Panzers, Ostis, Tigers
P-51Ds
P-38s
I heard complaints that F4Us and some Jugs weren't available.
Also, heard that Spits, Lalas, A-20s...ehhh...a lot of stuff was grounded/locked.

I'm honestly surprised that we Rooks won the reset with what we had.  :lol  The mere fact that SO many Rooks were pissed off & decided to stay online until we could win the reset - possibly in protest of the ENY-L - was what made the difference.
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« Reply #237 on: September 07, 2004, 01:21:08 PM »
lol thats insane cant imagine trying to cap a  field...........wish i could have been there to raise ENY up more but had no power for along time

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« Reply #238 on: September 07, 2004, 02:35:44 PM »
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Zazen: Althow I agree with your phisphical statement, I do not belive the suggestion put forth fufill the the requirements.

I.E. You jump to the conclusions that the ideas put forth meet the requirements, and make for better game play. In most of the ideas put forth I do not agree with that assesment.


I respect our opinion, I do not agree with it. But, I can respect it. Let us just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Obviously, continuing in this fashion is not going to change your tack. Hopefully it has given you some food for thought for future design change implimentations. All things considered I am a huge fan of your company and your product. I am of the opinion you have made some blunders with regard to limitations rather than enhancements as they effect gameplay. But, that is just my opinion.

The fact remains I will continue to pay you $30/month (me and my wife's accounts) until I die, the end of time, or your corporation is no longer a viable business entity. I have referred many subscribers to this product, as has my wife, and we will continue to do so. All I ask is that you remain open-minded to the opinions and ideas of others and not make the mistake of your predecessors and become so deeply infatuated with your own limited viewpoint that you fail to to see more gandiose and creative solutions to problems that encompass the 'big' picture as well as satisfy your short and long-term gameplay objectives.

Peace!

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« Reply #239 on: September 07, 2004, 02:39:16 PM »
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ROFL ...Zaz, bought ya a new dictionary, huh? :rofl


No, Jackal, I was just a 'career' University student during my 20s when I was suffering from major health problems. I've written more essays and research papers than any PhD. ;)

Zazen
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