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Offline bj229r

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« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2004, 09:56:34 PM »
I remember night...was abuncha people cursing and logging off because they couldnt SEE anything---aside from Lancasters egging cities, damned little happened at night in the air...and if ya adjust gamma to compensate, then YOU arent flyin at night either--the peeps who win the fights have the best gamma adjustments....buncha bs...on other hand, is a good way to populate the CT arena
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« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2004, 10:23:18 PM »
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Look at it this way.

 Day time doesn't force some people to log off.

 Night time forces most people to logg off.

 Two sides are into argument, one side's suggestion doesn't hurt the other, the other side's suggestion hurts the former.

 Which do you think is logical to expect?


Look at it this way........they logged off.  They didn't stop playing AH, HTC didn't lose a customer, it didn't "hurt" anyone "significantly", and those numbers that do log off are not as significant as you may think.  I tend to log after a couple of hours of getting beat up like a redheaded step child in daylight too!  Make HT turn off the "KILL" on "KKEN" then I will agree to NO NIGHT  Fair enough?  Lemme see, then I want to always land successfully-from anywhere even in a chute, I want unlimited ammo, unlimited fuel, no charge or perkies-for any plane or vehicle I want, and if I get a buff or goon within a sector of any target-I get an automatic capture, or every bomb is a direct hit and it kills the town and all hangers.  Oh yes, my planes cannot be damaged by anything either...... can I get that too?  And on squad night, the Cutthroats will always reset the arena 2 times.....by ourselves-it's a must.
That is a lot to hope for, I know.  But if you can get HT to grant me those wishes, chances are my whole squad would leave because winning isn't always expected and then there is no challenge.  And by the way, I get killed just as much or more at night, but it's is equally as fun and more !!
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« Reply #77 on: September 11, 2004, 01:00:31 AM »
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on other hand, is a good way to populate the CT arena


Yes, that's about the extent of it.

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« Reply #78 on: September 11, 2004, 02:12:11 AM »
Yes to both...please.



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« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2004, 08:12:20 AM »
I just LOVE the way people use the term "Most people" to try to artificially strengthen and justify their arguement on subjects.

It always amuses me  because reguardless of subject
99.999 times out of 100 it isnt true. It is nothing more then pure  fallacy.

A handful of people is not "most people"
20,30,40 or even 50 people are NOT "Most people"

Hell during primetime hours even 100 people are not "most people"

And I have never seen 100 people log off due to night, pizza or any other reason other then perhaps a mass boot caused by a server crash.

 Back when there was night during primetime hours there were on average about 120-150 players per country.
Even at the low end that 360 people.
In order to be a majority and thus "most of the people" at LEAST 181 would have to log off.
And thats never ever happened. other then by mass disco.
And Certainly not due to night.

So this whole claim of "most people" is a load of...
Well you know.
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« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2004, 08:37:36 AM »
I'm so sick and tired of people whining about night! Bring back night, letem whine. They have a choice to play at a different time when night is gone, just like they have the choice to leave the game.

Dangit you night whiners! All you want to do is dogfight!

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« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2004, 05:37:44 PM »
While not accurate, I counted a possible 11 folks who say NO to the night.  This number included a H2H player and I would like someone to do a re-count on the YES voters.  (and NO voters as well)  I may have counted a player more than once.  Certainly this forum and this thread may be consistant with the "actual" numbers and percentage of folks who want or do NOT want the night.  I also gave credit to the person who said "10 minutes only" as a NO.  I have to be fair, and so does this topic.  I am now going to push for a consensus of the Cutthroats, and all other squads that I know to push HTC to bring back the night.  RJO included!  I feel this strongly about this issue.  Scenarios need to be written and conceived with this in mind, as well.  The Brits did night time buff raids and the US did the daytime low level buff runs at a dear price.  Night time is realistic and a part of war.  And this is WAR!

If scenarios include the night, and I hope they will, then we need the night to hone our skills in the MA too.  

One of the coolest scenarios was Midway.....I flew Jap and we took off at dawn.....very dark, sunrising in the east and in our faces, and it was a glorious event!  Of course, I sacrificed myself for the emperor!

Think of the future in AH2...... V-1 buzz bombs hurling towards London at night, Spits upping to engage with the early P51s.  Search lights scanning the skies.........air raid  air raid...........(inserts sirens)  OH the carnage......and all at night!  

So if you just want to dogfight, go to the DA or the CT.  If you want realism, make it available for all, and on a regular basis.  I'd say too, set the MA up as Europe for a random option and then a pacific theater too.  The maps already exist.  Rotate them in and include the night too.  Sadly, only 2 countries are available-probably a better CT thing, but exposing the MA to this may bring more to scenarios and the CT too.  The third country in this scenario (in the MA) would default to the country with the least assets.  Axis or Allies.  I am sure this can be accomplished.  Just some thinking aloud and thoughts for reference.


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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2004, 06:08:03 PM »
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And this is WAR!


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« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2004, 07:02:13 PM »
I agree with bring back night. Not to making the MA into Axis vs Allies. I think it is fine the way it is( looking at maps and teams).
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« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2004, 10:09:20 PM »
Again K-ken, the scenarios you mentioned all, or nearly all, involved bombers, which practically noone flies anymore (for norden drops anyway), and when they do, they rarely hit cites, etc anyhow, as it has no effect on game....they dont HAVE V1's in here, and they required no human anyhow, whether day or night..and were they in here, noone would give a watermelon if there were comin into town/city anyhow. For better or worse (worse, imo) most the folks in AH play to furball/vultch..and ya cant even vultch unless a decent moon is out..mostly everyone just *****es..goes afk for night, or logs
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« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2004, 11:18:28 PM »
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Again K-ken, the scenarios you mentioned all, or nearly all, involved bombers, which practically noone flies anymore (for norden drops anyway), and when they do, they rarely hit cites, etc anyhow, as it has no effect on game....they dont HAVE V1's in here, and they required no human anyhow, whether day or night..and were they in here, noone would give a watermelon if there were comin into town/city anyhow. For better or worse (worse, imo) most the folks in AH play to furball/vultch..and ya cant even vultch unless a decent moon is out..mostly everyone just *****es..goes afk for night, or logs


Last night I had a full wing of buffs-maybe 10 formations, in on a base I was at.  No one flies buffs?  Tell those folks that.....!  They killed the base and the town!  I also stated that....in the Future there would/could be V-1s.  Please re-read the post.  HT can create them as a random event and if we have a european map, London could be the target.  I think this would be awesome.  And by the way, we can still have 3 countries Brits, Germans and Italy, or France........or the US-did I forget the Soviets??  "Tear Down that wall, Mr Gorbechoff..."(sp)  Oh my-that's 5 or 6....sorry!  Imagine the possibilities, be free thinking and let your imagination run wild.  Do you want to limit yourself to dogfights at high noon??  I am 56 years old and I want to see and feel and enjoy the experience of Aces High 2 and be a partner in it's existance and it's growth and future!  Don't limit the possibilities!
You do a dis-service to the community with that limited thinking.

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« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2004, 11:53:37 PM »
I like buffs too..more than fighters, but I'm just relying what I see/have seen---danged few peeps talked positively about night, when it was still goin on..that's why Hitech trashed it
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« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2004, 12:34:25 AM »
just fyi.  adjusting gamma damages the monitor.  that is directly for skuzzy.
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« Reply #88 on: September 12, 2004, 08:57:02 AM »
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mostly everyone just *****es..goes afk for night, or logs


Pure and complete nonsence
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« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2004, 09:08:54 AM »
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just fyi.  adjusting gamma damages the monitor.  that is directly for skuzzy.


Yes it does. When you go to extremes.
Minor adjustments will not damage it. Thats the whole reason for the adjustments being made available.

the monitor when packed/shipped may have had its adjustments either not done correctly or have had them knocked out of whack during the shipping process.
 Also things like child ack may effect them
 Also picture quality  and brightness will degrade on a monitor over time making these adjustments necessary.

Programs that include night Im sure are written in a way so that assuming the users monitor is adjusted properly, while the effect of night is acheived things are still visable during the night  hence the moonlight should be giving a harvest moon type effect where its still night but you can still very well see.
If thats not the effect you have. your monitor is probably in need of MINOR adjustment.
And that doesnt man making it look like 12 noon on a bright sunny day.
THAT will ruin your monitor
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