Author Topic: Can we have night back? (Read 4345 times)

MOIL · « **Reply #90 on:** September 12, 2004, 03:00:43 PM »

Night with searchlights, night fighters and exploding fuzed ack:aok

Hammy · « **Reply #91 on:** September 12, 2004, 06:55:17 PM »

BRING BACK THE NIGHT!!!!

just wanted to punt.

Hack9 · « **Reply #92 on:** September 12, 2004, 08:33:48 PM »

Ever wonder why the lower surfaces of a Lanc are darkly colored and not sky blue or light grey? Bring back the night! More people seemed to use Lancs for level medium to high alt bombing runs on strats and ports, etc, during the night. And flying as a night fighter was a blast while hunting them down. Everything about the night was cool. I'm all for bringing it back. It would have to be at least 30min in duration though to be of any real use. Think of the possibilities for night GV raids and such with the new terrain features! Scary fun to be had by all. Here's to the night.

Fruda · « **Reply #93 on:** September 12, 2004, 08:45:26 PM »

If you say you couldn't see at night in the MA on AH1 with no gamma adjustment, you have either mental problems (spoiled brats, usually), or you have eye problems, and as such shouldn't be staring at a monitor for hours on end each day.

Bunch of whining wusses.

Hey, when I played AH1 last year, I remember loving night time. Along with that, I usually saw about 390 people logged on during night mode on a good day (when about 630 would normally be on).

Night mode in AH1 had just as many people on as AHII does on a good day.

Night mode's not fun, eh?

Well, judging by your (lame) statements about night mode, licking the floor of an unclean public bathroom would be more fun.

You people just get your way too often.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #94 on:** September 12, 2004, 08:48:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Fruda

Night-time brings out the best (or worst) in a pilot. It keeps you on your toes.

Or in my case it makes me log off.
Hated the night time. And it always seemed to happen at the only time i had an opportunity to fly after work in the summer.
NO.

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Originally posted by Fruda
If you say you couldn't see at night in the MA on AH1 with no gamma adjustment, you have either mental problems (spoiled brats, usually), or you have eye problems, and as such shouldn't be staring at a monitor for hours on end each day.

Fact is the ATI card i was using in the AH1 days had little to no effect on lightning up the arena at full seting.
BTW.... Try a little manners in your posting. It is so much more interesting that way.

mechanic · « **Reply #95 on:** September 12, 2004, 09:11:53 PM »

night time would be amazing.

you're all just too cowardly to accept it.

everyone goes on about 'dweeb' rides and 'you need more of a challenge'.

well here it is, a challenge, and you are scared of facing this challenge.

have you seen how good HT has made night look now??

its sweet!

you're all wussy cry baby girly gamers.

this pic has had no gamma editing or PS effects (although i made a non-historical night skin for the spit 5). you telling me you cant see that pony 2k away down there?

girly girly girly girls. all of you.

you are all ruining the game for those who want more realism.

you complain when its not an even fight.

you whine when anything doesnt go your way.

you moan that night time 'is not necessary'

you are all seriously boring and obviously just want to prove how great you are to us all by gaining maximum kills/death in the shortest time possible, with the least effort and challenge possible. I am willing to bet the majority of anti-nighters are people who log on once a week for 20 mins.

most of the pro-nighters are the ones with more time online than off. we are keeping the numbers up in the MA, we deserve our satisfaction.

i know old age pensioners with more fighting spirit.

Batfink

Overlag · « **Reply #96 on:** September 12, 2004, 09:38:17 PM »

this game is 100% furball arena now (hence DA is dead) so HTC wont listen to night calls. or fix anything to do with buffs.

its all fighter fighter fighter.

the all round sim i once loved is gone

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #97 on:** September 12, 2004, 09:40:30 PM »

I don't necessarily want more realism. I want what was the most fun aspect of the entire game. Night time was when I had some of my most brilliant fights. Even though I got destroyed most of the time, I would re up and get right back out there. It was so much fun.

Kev367th · « **Reply #98 on:** September 13, 2004, 01:26:16 AM »

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this game is 100% furball arena now (hence DA is dead) so HTC wont listen to night calls. or fix anything to do with buffs.

its all fighter fighter fighter.

the all round sim i once loved is gone

Yup.
If it wasn't for the larger cities, buffs would be pretty much redundant now. Even then 3 or 4 110's can destroy a city.
Double hardness and no partially down HQs didn't help buff drivers either. Very little reward to be gained for buff drivers now, I kinda feel sorry for them.

Kweassa · « **Reply #99 on:** September 13, 2004, 03:08:06 AM »

The only thing amazing about night time is the stupid "fantasies" revolving around it.

There's always these band of people who think doing the bizarre, unusual, unlikely, and untypical stuff is somehow gonna bring loads of exotic fun.

Well, it's not. What it does is add 15 minutes of non-flying time the arena, plus additional 1 hour of heavy dusk/dawn where things are barely visible.

And don't drag realism into this.

Everything in a game is selective realism. Unless there is some fundamental reason to absoultely try and hold on to reality(such as limited ammo, realistic FM, no external views and etc.) all other realism issues are for compromise with game play.

Having day time all day long does not make anyone log off. Having a night time does. Be it 10 guys or 100 guys.

This forced, warped definition of "realism" does not help anything. You guys wanna talk about reality of night time in the real war? How large do you think the average portion of night fighter squadrons were, compared to normal day-time fighters?

At night, day time pilots and planes rest. It's "night". You aren't supposed to see anything without a radar mechanism. And as much, you barely see anything in thr MA.

Except, the MA has AWACS for all fighters, and provides icons for all planes. There's no such thing as a specialized night fighter in the MA.

So, what are we gonna do at night? Use the same planes we do at day time, to fly the same way, in doing the same stuff - the only difference is, at night you can't see anything, and the frustration factor overwhelms the fun factor.

If there were something done to the dar systems, so there would be some real night fighters, with their own type of game play that distinctly differs from day time fighters - then having night time would make sense.

However, since it ain't that way, we gonna use same planes to do the same stuff we do at day time, and we're gonna start to hate it because it is what it is - it sucks.

Kev367th · « **Reply #100 on:** September 13, 2004, 03:20:55 AM »

Agree with a lot of what you say Kweassa.
But weren't the orginal night fighters just day fighters painted differently?
Not advocating realism, AH2 gets further away from realism with each gameplay alteration.
Think part of it is the fact that what little strategic side to the game there was has all but gone.

Overlag · « **Reply #101 on:** September 13, 2004, 06:34:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Agree with a lot of what you say Kweassa.
But weren't the orginal night fighters just day fighters painted differently?
Not advocating realism, AH2 gets further away from realism with each gameplay alteration.
Think part of it is the fact that what little strategic side to the game there was has all but gone.

hence people are leaving.....

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #102 on:** September 13, 2004, 07:44:07 AM »

Can you say Bovine Scat.
There we go. I knew you could:)

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Originally posted by Kweassa
The only thing amazing about night time is the stupid "fantasies" revolving around it.

There's always these band of people who think doing the bizarre, unusual, unlikely, and untypical stuff is somehow gonna bring loads of exotic fun.

Well, it's not. What it does is add 15 minutes of non-flying time the arena, plus additional 1 hour of heavy dusk/dawn where things are barely visible.

And don't drag realism into this.

Everything in a game is selective realism. Unless there is some fundamental reason to absoultely try and hold on to reality(such as limited ammo, realistic FM, no external views and etc.) all other realism issues are for compromise with game play.

Having day time all day long does not make anyone log off. Having a night time does. Be it 10 guys or 100 guys.

This forced, warped definition of "realism" does not help anything. You guys wanna talk about reality of night time in the real war? How large do you think the average portion of night fighter squadrons were, compared to normal day-time fighters?

At night, day time pilots and planes rest. It's "night". You aren't supposed to see anything without a radar mechanism. And as much, you barely see anything in thr MA.

Except, the MA has AWACS for all fighters, and provides icons for all planes. There's no such thing as a specialized night fighter in the MA.

So, what are we gonna do at night? Use the same planes we do at day time, to fly the same way, in doing the same stuff - the only difference is, at night you can't see anything, and the frustration factor overwhelms the fun factor.

If there were something done to the dar systems, so there would be some real night fighters, with their own type of game play that distinctly differs from day time fighters - then having night time would make sense.

However, since it ain't that way, we gonna use same planes to do the same stuff we do at day time, and we're gonna start to hate it because it is what it is - it sucks.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #103 on:** September 13, 2004, 07:45:20 AM »

Agreed

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Agree with a lot of what you say Kweassa.
But weren't the orginal night fighters just day fighters painted differently?
Not advocating realism, AH2 gets further away from realism with each gameplay alteration.
Think part of it is the fact that what little strategic side to the game there was has all but gone.

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Originally posted by Overlag
hence people are leaving.....

SlapShot · « **Reply #104 on:** September 13, 2004, 09:30:49 AM »

You want "realism" ? ... you want night time ?

Ok ... HTC needs to develop "real" night planes that did and could operate at night. A paint job does not make a night fighter, it only helps concel them. They will need their own on-board radar.

Once the sun sets, ALL radar is disabled in the areana, and ALL icons are shut off. Then at that point, the only planes that can see dot-dar (when in "real" operating radar range) and icons are the "real" planes that did and could operate at night. Doesn't that sound like fun !!!

Maybe some of you real history afficianados can enlighten us.

How many "real" WW II aces scored kills at night ?

How many of them actually engaged in dogfighting at night ?

How many dogfighting kills did Yeager, Bong, Boyington score in the pitch dark of night ?

How many dogfighting kills did the German aces score in the pitch dark of night ?

How many P-51s, N1Ks, Spitfires, La-7s, 109s, 190s, F4-Us, P-47s, 202s, 205s, P-38s, F6-Fs, FM2s, A6Ms, and 262s were equipped with night time radar that would allow them to dogfight effectively ?

Could one, during WW II, effectively dogfight at night ? ... or was night time flying only done for reconnasance and bombing purposes ?