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« Reply #135 on: September 13, 2004, 07:58:25 AM »
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anyone that can pee off akak, urchin, arlo and a host of others gets my thumbs up

wipass


It kind of amuses me that  these 'wonderfull people' :rolleyes: devote even a small fraction of their time to lambaste me publicly on these forums. It is either a credit to my playing ability or a sad commentary on their pathetic lives. I can't decide which it is, perhaps a combination of the two. ;)

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« Reply #136 on: September 13, 2004, 08:02:10 AM »
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anyone that can pee off akak, urchin, arlo and a host of others gets my thumbs up

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Well when ya find him, let us know when the weddin' is. :D

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« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2004, 08:03:29 AM »
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It kind of amuses me that  these 'wonderfull people' :rolleyes: devote even a small fraction of their time to lambaste me publicly on these forums. It is either a credit to my playing ability or a sad commentary on their pathetic lives. I can't decide which it is, perhaps a combination of the two. ;)

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Maybe it's just your persecution complex kickin' into full speed ahead? Hehe .... ;)

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« Reply #138 on: September 13, 2004, 08:06:47 AM »
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Its late and i have had a few beers so i know im gonna regret this.

++++++++++++CHallenGe++++++++++++
I want to challenge Zazen to a camp/month.  Highest K/D?
No La7's, Niki's or Spits. You fly your typhoon/P51/P47. I fly my 190D9/190A8.
We can start this next month.
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I am a below average pilot so it should be no problem for ya.
I am knight so, i am obviously at a disadvantage since the ENY restrictions have not changed anything in the MA or so ya claim.

Just for fun. This will give me a reason to fly seriously again.
Any other rules be good. Maybe have to have a certain amount of sorties etc. You are the man of higher intelligence so i'll let you maybe think out any other rules.

S! look foward to the challenge


Misfit, I like your spirit. The fact remains I ALWAYS fly to live, I do not require a personal contest for motivation. I always endeavour to fly as if I were a real WW2 fighter pilot trying to survive the war (camp) so that one day I might return home to my family. Aces High is a role-playing game to me as well as a WW2 air combat simulation. If you wish to have a 'contest' any camp, simply compare your end of camp K/D with mine.

Every camp I am actually having a 'contest' with myself to see if I can go an entire camp without a death in a fighter (while maintaining a reasonable K/S(2.5), K/T(6/HR) and Hit %(10%) with no more than 10% of my kills coming from a perked plane & no fewer than 150 kills total). The closest I have ever gotten in AH was last camp. Four deaths; three collisions and one death to a bomber gunner, no deaths to another fighter. I found that camp to be the most fun ever, the adrenalin rush each sortie was incredible. I felt like a surgeon wielding a precision cutting instrument in a fighter. It's a very hard thing to explain to anyone who doesn't approach the game as I do, I've tried many times in a myriad of ways.

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« Reply #139 on: September 13, 2004, 08:46:17 AM »
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That is untrue. I always make an effort to keep my time in Fighter roughly equal to my time in the Ostwind by camp's end. Last camp for example I spent 33 Hours in a fighter compared to 30 hours in an Ostwind. I had 42 deaths in that 30 hours in the Ostwind, compared to 9 deaths total in 33 hours in a fighter.

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How did you get killed in a fighter?  Did a satelite ram you?  :D  
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« Reply #140 on: September 13, 2004, 08:54:04 AM »
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Maybe it's just your persecution complex kickin' into full speed ahead? Hehe .... ;)


I wouldn't be so paranoid if all these people weren't after me!!:eek:

I crack myself up sometimes! :rofl



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« Reply #141 on: September 13, 2004, 08:55:15 AM »
Zazen is example of a breed of AH flyer that matter as I remember him in AW as a gamer of the game and a point/rank HO.

Now, his loyalty to his country, the rooks, to be of some redeeming character, but his vocal opposition to the new ENY setup is example how this new setup is cramping his style of those that basically need to be in on top of a big black cloud of rook flyers, in late model uber planes; to swoop down and cherry pick with points, K/D and the like primarily on his mind.

Now, whether Zazen is any good, well is something of debate.  But considering, In my humble opinion, there is the sprit of the game vers gaming the game.  In that respect Zazen is of that later camp.  I don’t think points are as important as flying with my squadies, focusing on objectives and just having fun rather than just MY K/D and Rank.

Since he brags on this forum all the time I feel Zazen is fair game.  I disagree with his view of  gaming the game.

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« Reply #142 on: September 13, 2004, 09:04:19 AM »
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Zazen is example of a breed of AH flyer that matter as I remember him in AW as a gamer of the game and a point/rank HO.

Now, his loyalty to his country, the rooks, to be of some redeeming character, but his vocal opposition to the new ENY setup is example how this new setup is cramping his style of those that basically need to be in on top of a big black cloud of rook flyers, in late model uber planes; to swoop down and cherry pick with points, K/D and the like primarily on his mind.

Now, whether Zazen is any good, well is something of debate.  But considering, In my humble opinion, there is the sprit of the game vers gaming the game.  In that respect Zazen is of that later camp.  I don’t think points are as important as flying with my squadies, focusing on objectives and just having fun rather than just MY K/D and Rank.

Since he brags on this forum all the time I feel Zazen is fair game.  I disagree with his view of  gaming the game.

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Chi, look up. My best camp EVER in AH was last camp, with the ENY thingy in full swing. The ENY thingy does not detrimentally effect me personally in any way, it just makes no sense logically as to how it operates (no regard for disposition of forces), that is why I take exception to it, in principle. In fact, I would ever go so far as to say the ENY thing actually makes the game easier for me as my enemy is periodically without his best ride, whereas my best rides are virtually always available due to their high ENY rating. Perhaps this explains why my best camp EVER in AH was also the first camp of the ENY limiter, even so I still oppose the ENY limiter in its current incarnation in principle.

As for 'gaming the game' as you call it, I call it the realistic survivalist approach. When push came to shove, the foremost concern on a fighter pilot's mind in WW2 was getting home with his bellybutton still attached to the rest of his body, especially true of anyone flying alone in a lone wolf, free-hunt capacity as I do 99% of the time.

 I would fly the exact same way if there were no scores, ranks, or online record keeping of any sort. The record-keeping is just an objective way to measure relative performance without having to manually keep records yourself or guess. It's not about the scores for me, it's about the role-playing. The only reason I get bunched up with score potatos is because, to a degree, those who fly for score/rank have to also  fly to survive, otherwise their lack of a decent K/D would make their entire score/rank suffer.

I'm an entirely different breed of animal, I'm the pure survivalist. It takes alot of cunning and intelligence to be a suvivalist. There is no greater hunt than one human being hunting another. Humans are not bound by instinct or inhibitions, they are able to adapt infinitely due to creativity and imagination. Constantly besting other humans without allowing them to best me is an intriguing pursuit which I find incredibly entertaining, personally.

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« Reply #143 on: September 13, 2004, 12:08:44 PM »
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There is no greater hunt than one human being hunting another. Humans are not bound by instinct or inhibitions, they are able to adapt infintely due to creativity. Constantly besting other humans without allowing them to best me is an intriguing pursuit which I find incredibly entertaining, personally.


heh, there is a short story called. The Most Dangerous Game. Ever read it? Thats what that reminded me of.

Ahh, here we go. A linky http://www.enotes.com/most-dangerous/
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« Reply #144 on: September 13, 2004, 03:12:06 PM »
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heh, there is a short story called. The Most Dangerous Game. Ever read it? Thats what that reminded me of.

Ahh, here we go. A linky http://www.enotes.com/most-dangerous/


I read that in school, perhaps grade 7 or 8? It was a very good story and very aptly describes the enthralling nature of hunting other human beings.

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« Reply #145 on: September 13, 2004, 03:14:48 PM »
Yep. Remember having to read it in highschool English.

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« Reply #146 on: September 13, 2004, 03:25:37 PM »
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Yea, my brain is an aiming computer. I play pool semi-professionally. The angles of deflection in pool are mentally the exact same as in gunnery. I find that the more I play AH the better my pool game Conversely, the more pool I play the better my gunnery in AH. I think I just owe my uncanny aim to a highly developed sense of deflection. Interestingly, this was the case in WW1 & WW2. The best fighter pilots were those from rural areas that hunted fast moving prey growing up, they had superior gunnery. These people also had a highly developed sense of deflection.

Zazen


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« Reply #147 on: September 13, 2004, 03:28:48 PM »
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I read that in school, perhaps grade 7 or 8? It was a very good story and very aptly describes the enthralling nature of hunting other human beings.

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I read it in 3rd grade and wrote a doctoral thesis on it before my 5th grade graduation.

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« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2004, 03:31:53 PM »
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I read it in 3rd grade and wrote a doctoral thesis on it before my 5th grade graduation.

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Slappy, you're not one of those dorks who got recruited at the ripe age 11 by MIT only to become a 35 year-old celibate bedwetter who still lives at home with mom, are you ? :rofl
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« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2004, 03:43:02 PM »
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Slappy, you're not one of those dorks who got recruited at the ripe age 11 by MIT only to become a 35 year-old celibate bedwetter who still lives at home with mom, are you ? :rofl


Exposed !!! ... dang you are good ...  :rofl
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