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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2004, 10:30:56 PM »
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i bet you could fit a nuke into a suit case, do you agree?


Not entirly.  Making a nuke small enough to fit in a suitcase....call me crazy...reqired some finesse (SP).  I don't think the Iranians are far enough along in there program to acheive this...I MAY BE WRONG THOUGH i"M NOT 100% I'M JUST SPECULATING.


I think that the program should be taken out before its aloud to get to that point.

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2004, 10:32:10 PM »
To be honest, I'm for just not doing anything.

If diplomatic talks fail, just be like, okay, gg.

If we have to go to Iran to use force to deny them nuclear weapons, we would most likely still be in Iraq at this time.

Even if it was just Air Force, I wouldn't be surprised if Bush, if re-elected, would want the army in there for some good ol' ground war. Because lets admit, I bet hes having fun with military reports, feeling all big and tough like his dad from the Desert Storm.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2004, 10:36:52 PM »
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Why not attack France, they have Nukes and clearly hostile to USA. Should take you only a day or two.


Q- How many frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
A- don't know, it's never been attempted.

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2004, 10:52:44 PM »
Q- Why French Navy warships have glass bottom?
A- To keep in touch ith the rest of the fleet.
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2004, 10:58:55 PM »
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Yes really.

Read Charon's post again.

There is a bit of a power struggle between the old and young... the young being pro-reform.

And frankly, it's a pretty healthy fight, quite civil.

But no - you won't meet the old cleric-types who try and impose this kind of thing. They aint going to last much longer anyways...

Unless....


Unless.... they get invaded.


so if the old start winning the power struggle do you agree that their program needs to be stopped?

I certainly do.  I don't agree that things w/ Iran are as black and white but when it comes to Nukes myself and I hope the world community wants certainty.  

Yes pakistan and India both have them and probably cannot be stopped but does that mean we let another country to develop the capability?

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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2004, 11:02:17 PM »
The old won't win the power struggle.

Iran is the US's biggest friend within 10 years... unless the US completely blows it.

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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2004, 11:17:02 PM »
Yeah, let's strike Iran while we have undermanned forces in Iraq. That will work out dandy.
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2004, 11:21:40 PM »
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The old won't win the power struggle.

Iran is the US's biggest friend within 10 years... unless the US completely blows it.


Nash,

Well said.


GS,

I think you underestimate US air power......but the political side of it involving russia is rightly so.

BUT, If it did happen I would hope that there wouldnt be a major build up in tension then an advertised shock and awe...it would be a complete surprise.  I would be dollars to doughnuts that US planners allready have the strike planned out and possible rehearsed.


RPM.....The topic is strictly about a conventional air strike....something that is not in short supply in Iraq.

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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2004, 11:23:09 PM »
"and there's the "Russian connection". The Iranian reactor is a Russian design, being built by Russian engineers, protected by modern Russian defences with crews instructed by Russian "military advisers", and if and when the reactor goes online it will be fuelled by Russian uranium. If Russians die in the strike the political fallout may be severe. "

Since when did the "latest Russian" protection ever protect against a modern US attack?

If the US decides to go after Iran, nothing will stop it imho.

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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2004, 11:27:19 PM »
Gun, I understand the conventional strike. I was refering to the repercussions from those muslims that are less than friendly. You think we are seeing insurgency now, just strike Iran.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2004, 11:36:21 PM »
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How so? I did say a B-2 or F-117 could do the job.


sorry missread the post.  Yes a bomber strike force with figheters running screen and wild weasle could easily set the program back a good decade.

as far as reacihng them.....don't we have air bases right next door? :)

Going to bed now...thanks for the discussion:aok

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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2004, 12:32:00 AM »
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And frankly, it's a pretty healthy fight, quite civil.


Really? Pardon my skepticism. These folks would seem to disagree with your assessment.

"The Islamic fundamentalists who rule Iran have suppressed women in the cruelest manner over the past two decades. Inhuman punishments such as stoning, execution, and flogging of women in public under bogus pretexts were stepped up in 2001."

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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2004, 01:10:59 AM »
Maybe we should have went into Iran instead. If so then right now Irans military would be destroyed, insurgency would be there, and Sadam would be sweatin bullets of wmd.

edit: This just occured to me today.

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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2004, 01:19:09 AM »
"This just occured to me today. "

No way! You are a genious.

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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2004, 01:27:54 AM »
Ok, if you say so! Whatever hurts brain the most.