Iran makes Israel glow in the dark...then..

[Killjoy2]

Actually i watched the fall of Iran on television with a group of Iranians manufacturers who had fled the fall of the Shaw.  

There was live TV coverage and tape.  They would point out people and places they recognized from the footage.

One of them left his light bulb manufacturing plant ( it supplied the whole of the Middle East) and drove to a deserted stretch of road in a desert where a Cessna landed and picked him up to escape.  

Although I am no longer in contact with these people, it is my impression they are still in contact with people in Iran and have interests there.

[montag]

They'll hit iran if they have nukes, theres no doubt in my mind.

[Torque]

Originally posted by Killjoy2
Actually i watched the fall of Iran on television with a group of Iranians manufacturers who had fled the fall of the Shaw.  

There was live TV coverage and tape.  They would point out people and places they recognized from the footage.

One of them left his light bulb manufacturing plant ( it supplied the whole of the Middle East) and drove to a deserted stretch of road in a desert where a Cessna landed and picked him up to escape.  

Although I am no longer in contact with these people, it is my impression they are still in contact with people in Iran and have interests there.

The "Shah of Iran" topic has been hashed out in another thread, maybe it might interest you, last page sums it up.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130674&perpage=50&highlight=shah&pagenumber=4

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Arlo
You may wish to consider revising your fourth prediction. The Patriot Product Line is the world's most advanced ground-based air defense system.

As good as the Patriot is at shooting down SCUD's and Toranado's I'm not sure on it's ability in shooting down something like the Taep'o-dong-2 which I assume is the 3 stage N.Korean missile that Iran has just tested, as it's only one they are suppose to have in development with a 4000km range.



...-Gixer

[ghi]

Kiljoy,

  Patriot,  never shoot  down Scud missiles,  in first golf war, check last reports ,

[ghi]

WW3 is going to be betwen muslim and cristians.
  I belive in Nostradamus and Biblie's prophecys  When is going to start?!  Maybe is  already stared ,   The  Middle East is hot;US invasion in Irak,Israel, last huge  oil reserve around Caspian Sea ,Iran want nukes .
    Do you guys think Israel is going to bomb Iran's reactors ,same like they did with Irak's reactor?  yesterday i read on news site that US sold 400-500 bunker busters bombs to Israel.

[Hortlund]

Definition of a dumb f**k:
One that puts his trust in the rationality of moslem clerics.

Is anyone really impressed with the "they would not do it because it would be suicide"-argument when it is applied to a group of people who are prone to blow themselves up to kill as many innocent civilians as possible?

F*cktards. And yes, I mean you.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Definition of a dumb f**k:
One that puts his trust in the rationality of moslem clerics.

Is anyone really impressed with the "they would not do it because it would be suicide"-argument when it is applied to a group of people who are prone to blow themselves up to kill as many innocent civilians as possible?

F*cktards. And yes, I mean you.

How many of the mullahs or bigtime leaders have blown themselves up? How any of tyem don suicide bomb vests and go shopping in Isareli malls? Heck if thats what they were up to, this whole terror thing would end damn quick - all the leaders would be dead...  They just send dumb fanatics to blow themselves up, they are just a weapons system and a tactic for delivery..

[Hortlund]

Yes, must not think that anyone in a ruling position would do that...I mean its not as if there are a gazillion fatwas floating around giving anyone the right to do everything to kill as many jews as possible and be rewarded with paradise. And those mullas are prolly not religious deep down anyway...?


Besides, MAD will not work against these people. Heck MAD barely worked against the Soviet union, a civilized nation.

What happens if a nuke is detonated today in Tel Aviv, and Al Quaeda takes blame for it? Do you REALLY think that the answer will be a nuke launched from the US to Teheran...because I DONT. Heck, not even I would support the idea to murder millions of women and children just like that.

I never thought you were an idiot grun, dont prove me wrong now.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Iran as a country has too much to live for to do something like that.

Not a very good bet to make when you are dealing with Islamofascists.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Yes, must not think that anyone in a ruling position would do that...I mean its not as if there are a gazillion fatwas floating around giving anyone the right to do everything to kill as many jews as possible and be rewarded with paradise. And those mullas are prolly not religious deep down anyway...?


Besides, MAD will not work against these people. Heck MAD barely worked against the Soviet union, a civilized nation.

What happens if a nuke is detonated today in Tel Aviv, and Al Quaeda takes blame for it? Do you REALLY think that the answer will be a nuke launched from the US to Teheran...because I DONT. Heck, not even I would support the idea to murder millions of women and children just like that.

I never thought you were an idiot grun, dont prove me wrong now.

How did you go from al qaeda to tehran?

Thats quite different. One is nation state thats easilt targeted and destroyed and the other is a group of basically stateless terrorists..

But lets say that Iran does give al qaeda a nuke and aq uses it.

Its very easy to trace that back to iran, and so then buh bye Iran...

Or lets imagine Iran does go ahead and directly nuke isreal itself.

Are you saying that the leadership of Iran will be happy that israeli and usa nukes are on the way back to tehran and every major city and village in iran? Thats what would happend..

You cant extrapolate indivudual suiicide bombers to the way a whole self interested nation with something to live for will act.

[Hortlund]

You are just so full of **** grun. I never thought that actually.

Western public opinion cannot bare 40 wedding guests killed in the desert, but would ok a nuke on Teheran, with the only evidence being some US intelligence report...6 months after a nuke detonated in Israel.

LOL yeah... Like I said, MAD does not work these days.

[Gixer]

I doubt Iran would use nukes in a first strike on Israel  or supply them to OBL,unless like Israel their backs were against the wall.
When they look at what's happend to Afghanistan and Iraq their probably just looking at nuclear weapons as an insurance to prevent the same thing happening to them.

They've had a large amount of chemical and biological weapons for years. They haven't used those against Israel as they know that they would get ten fold back in return, same for any nuclear weapons.



...-Gixer

[Hortlund]

And another one counting on the rationality of fundamentalist moslems.

[Hortlund]

Some people seem to forget the difference between a nuke and chemical or biological weapons.

Some seem to think that a nuke would take out a city only or whatever. But a nuke is more than just the radius of the fireball or the shockwave.

A single megaton nuke in Israel would kill pretty much ever single man, woman and child in all of Israel. Do a ground burst in northern Israel when the wind conditions are right, and you will cover the entire nation with lethal rad-doses.