gameplay idea for those who fight..

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Midnight
These furballers just love to slap each other on the backs (lazs, dipstick and leviathn) while they make up new names (strat-potato, fluffer, bore-and-zoomer, toolshed hunter, etc.) to call the other players in AH and make jokes about how the other players like to fly. As far as I'm concerned, they can take some flak for it.

Wrong, Oh glorious pigeonholer.  I've never used those terms to describe how people fly, and I certainly don't care how someone flies on their dime.

I do find it humorous when someone posts evidence to show that they do not fly "timidly" (whatever that means) and the films show exactly the opposite.  But more power to 'em.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[mars01]

Nothing for nothing Midnight, but take your pills man.

My post to BGB was just that a post to an old squaddy.  It had nothing to do with you or anything else, other than the laugh I get out of BGBs typing skills and off color humor and obvious taunting.

The fact that you took it personally makes me think you are taking this a little too seriously.  

What these guys have asked for is not so difficult as redesigning an entire arena, just a small area out of the way where they can indulge in the type of fighting they want, and yet still be part of the community in the MA. When they get their fill of furballing in the corner, they can hop back over to another base and rejoin the ongoing war without having to change arenas. The nice thing is you get to "switch gears" and change up your style of fighting every so often

I think this says it all if you can't get it then you are never going to.  Yes your free to post whatever you like but you are sounding like a broken record or even worse like Bettle.  

If this adds more fun to the game and keeps us all together, then why not?

BINGO!!!!!!

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Midnight
These furballers just love to slap each other on the backs (lazs, dipstick and leviathn) while they make up new names (strat-potato, fluffer, bore-and-zoomer, toolshed hunter, etc.) to call the other players in AH and make jokes about how the other players like to fly. As far as I'm concerned, they can take some flak for it.

You missed "strateegeerist", which originates on the 13thTAS side of the Mutual Backslappers' Society fence.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by sax
I agrre 100% Honch--we are in early war stuff and they are in 51D's--thier tactics were the best choice for that particular fite and I commend them for winning--------my problem is when I come back in a P38--co-alt--one of em turns and runs for a whole sector to his ack.
Why not turn and fite for the sake of "what the heck have I got to lose"

Hiya Sax / Honch

It was a fun couple of fights. Sax, I had to run when you made it back to the fight because jumusta, who also came into that fight in a P-51, had just pounded on me and I knew I was 1 or 2 hits away from loosing my horizontal stabs. There was a very good chance that turning again (with you and Justmusta both at 1000 yards) would give you a chance for a snapshot and the fight would have been over. I would have turned to fight if I got some seperation before reaching home field. I was actually suprised to find out that it was you in the P-38, considering how things ended.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Wrong, Oh glorious pigeonholer.  I've never used those terms to describe how people fly, and I certainly don't care how someone flies on their dime.

I do find it humorous when someone posts evidence to show that they do not fly "timidly" (whatever that means) and the films show exactly the opposite.  But more power to 'em.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Perhaps you haven't used those particular names before, but look a few posts back at what was posted...

Originally posted by lazs2
The bore and zoom guys like midnight depend on the furballers. They need us because if we left they would have to fight each other and they know how boring that would be. they depend on being higher than everyone else and untouchable.

followed by

Originally posted by Dipstick
Do ya think?.

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Tango actually gets close to 600mph on a couple of passes in that film. That's funny stuff.

 
There specifically your each slapping each other on the back with a chuckle chuckle thrown in.

You, like certain others, seem to like to classify anyone not flying to your liking as flying "timidly", like your way is so much more aggresive or requires the player to have bigger balls than everyone else.

To me, your self-gratifying, insult tossing, we're the non-timid flyers, little band of BBS friends are just plain annoying.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Hehehe, I think you are just about as off as the gore-hounds that have to slow down and look at bad traffic accidents.  You say the material in the thread upsets and/or annoys you, you claim most of the posters in the thread annoy you, yet you just cant stay away.  

Come to our side Midnight.  Come be a furballer, leave the cares and worries about your K/D ratio and perkies behind.  Come take stupid chances with your unlimited lives and try for nearly impossible snapshots.  Come fly your plane in a series of stalls that leave you dizzy.  Come see how much damage one plane can take before it falls apart from MG's.  More important, just come have fun.  Have you ever tried to up from a capped base on purpose?  Tried to gun the vulchers as you are rolling down the runway?  Tried to taxi through hangers to make them crash?  Tried to grab enough alt in a heavy Jug to drop a bomb at the end of the runway on a FP, and blow yourself up?   Its a blast!  Hehe.  Blast.  Hehehe.

[midnight Target]

Toolshed hunter?

Why did this make me laugh out loud at work... WHY!!???

I think you are virtually all virtually wrong and virtually no one can virtually match my virtual style of virtual play... virtually no one!!

[Midnight]

Originally posted by lazs2
midnight you are missing the point entirely... the way the arena is now you have everything your way... your style... as you say you can come in at 15k in a mustang and pick off people trying to enjopy other forms of gameplay.... you can do it at no risk to yourself and you don't have to spend any time developing any skills.... siply make sure that "mustang" is selected... you probly don't even have views set for any other  plane.

I wouldn't say the arena is anywhere near everything my way, but I make do with what it is without having to keep whining about a special area just for me.

No skills required... that's right, it doesn't take any skill at all to fly a P-51 against superior numbers and be able to maintain E and position while still getting kills on other aircraft that can turn around to HO you in the time it takes for you to close on them from 2,000 yards.

I wish it was so simple that they would just keep flying in a straight line at all times that I was about to shoot at them. Then I could leave it on auto-pilot and eat dinner while I got my kills.

Originally posted by lazs2
it is about choice... most furballers would spend a lot of time in the furball area but they would also spend time in the other areas when something fun was going on.... heck... we might even grab a mustang on ocassion and go to 20k and force you to fight or die.

Some might, some do, I still get my kills. I can fight at 20K just as well as I do at 5K.

Originally posted by lazs2
I still don't see what you are so afraid of tho.... heck... you might feel like actually participating in some fun furballing from time to time... my idea would allow you the option.

Who siad I was afraid? And you seem to forget, I've already got the option.

[Honch]

I like the threat of a B&Zer hovering above a furball.  It makes me feel like James Bond knife-fighting a villain while a bunch of lasers are going off all around the room.  Sometimes you have to give up a guns solution to avoid getting cherry-picked. Exhilarating, IMO.

Killing the FHs at one of the furball bases kinda irks me tho.  Its not always easy to find a fight on the map that is “fun” by my standards and when one gets stomped out it can be frustrating.  

I like lazs idea of a furball island.  One that is semi-isolated with no strategic value I don’t think the fields should be undamageable though.  Hopefully if they had no strategic value in capturing, it may keep a buff driver from making a long trip to pork it.  No ord should be available.  Oh, and make the fields on little 2K hills so you automatically have alt going into the deck brawl.  And - even tho personally I’d like to see an ENY cap on the fighters available there, I don’t think it would be fair to everyone.

Just to get back on topic here!

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Midnight
There specifically your each slapping each other on the back with a chuckle chuckle thrown in.

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Wrong as usual.  Your problem, Midnight, is reading into things too much.  Stop being so touchy.  Your other problem is assuming that Lazs, Dipstick, and I represent some unified "furballer" front when in fact I tend to disagree with them as much as I agree with them   about Aces High.

But don't let such specifics ruin a good victimization rant.

You, like certain others, seem to like to classify anyone not flying to your liking as flying "timidly", like your way is so much more aggresive or requires the player to have bigger balls than everyone else.

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Nope.  I advocate aggressive flying, and I've defined aggressiveness in other threads.  At no point that I recall, however, have I viciously or consistently attacked those who fly differently or in a non-aggressive manner.  The film brought a chuckle from me because Tango posted it as evidence that his squad did not fly "timidly" or at least flew into poor odds.  The fact that he did so with a 5k alt advantage and a plane going three times faster than those he attacked was not lost on me given the context.

To me, your self-gratifying, insult tossing, we're the non-timid flyers, little band of BBS friends are just plain annoying.

Why do you care what lazs et al. have to say?  You clearly care too much for his opinion if what he says somehow annoys you.  Why not ignore it?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[mars01]

Who siad I was afraid? And you seem to forget, I've already got the option.

We'll if you furballed then you would realise there are very few decent, real, furballs to be found.

Thankfully well thought out maps such as Festers have helped allieviate some of the problems and they are not as non existent as they were, but they are by no means something you can find at any time.

Where as, and I think the point is, that at any time anyone can...

take off at a clear field, climb to around 15K and get near an enemy field that is launching multiple aircraft trying to go an attack a friendly field. Then I like to use E tactics to fight them as long as my ammo, fuel or advantage remains. Once I run out of any of the three, I get the heck out of there.

Midnight I can't think of many groups that fly this style and do it as well as your squad.  Personally I hate running into you guys cause the action is slow, methodical and surgical.  Once you guys arrive above there is not point trying to climb up to you.  The only option is to up from another base climb to 15k and hope to get there before you guys lost one of your advantages and got the heck out of there.

So this is the way you fly, and except for the ENY limiter you are never abated from flying that way, where as more often then not I don't have a choice but to fly this way because there are no decent furballs to be had, so all that is left is to pack some ord and bomb or climb to the hills and set up above some enemy base diving on guys trying to climb out.

[Redd]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying




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Nope.  I advocate aggressive flying, and I've defined aggressiveness in other threads.  At no point that I recall, however, have I viciously or consistently attacked those who fly differently or in a non-aggressive manner.  The film brought a chuckle from me because Tango posted it as evidence that his squad did not fly "timidly" or at least flew into poor odds.  The fact that he did so with a 5k alt advantage and a plane going three times faster than those he attacked was not lost on me given the context.

 
-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]

You have to be impressed by his ammo conservation though. He would have made it home with nearly a full counter, that's not easy after watching people fight for 15 minutes like that. The temptation to get in and shoot something can become overpowering.

[mars01]

Originally posted by:Leviathn
Your other problem is assuming that Lazs, Dipstick, and I represent some unified "furballer" front when in fact I tend to disagree with them as much as I agree with them about Aces High.

Thats it your Furballer charter has been revoked, turn in your pin and step away from the spitV:D

[sax]

Originally posted by beet1e
You missed "strateegeerist", which originates on the 13thTAS side of the Mutual Backslappers' Society fence.

Wondering how long it would take for yu to bring that up beatle , but since yu did----probebly some of the best parts of AH used to be Squad rivalries.
Ask any player that has belonged to an older Squad from AH and they most likely will tell yu that knowing another enemy name brand squad was in the area brought up the immersion factor about 10 notches--thus the reason for "The Back Slapping Society"---appreciation for making the nite a lot more fun.

Used to be able to know what an icon--icons was bringing and it generated anticipation.
51's--412 or TAS
Spitty's--Levi--Slappy ect
FM2's--F6F's--Yak--BK's
109-190's--Assasins
Little of everything in formation--AK's
Lots of everything--MAW:)

Now a days it's all about #'s not names and thats to bad cause even tho it's still the best flite game to be had--it deffinately doesn't have the same character.

And that folks is why players like lazs--Hooligan--Drex--WldThing--Apache--my own squaddies--Rude-Beemer-and more are taking extended breaks---they wanna fite talent not talents.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by mars01
It had nothing to do with you or anything else, other than the laugh I get out of BGBs typing skills and off color humor and obvious taunting.

Sorry Mars but using the words "BGBs" and "typing skills" in the same sentence is STRICTLY PROHIBITED!