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Offline Rude

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2004, 01:41:11 PM »
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Can you give us a proof too ?
2 proofs are better than 1 :D


I googled my little heart out and found nothing similar at all to what is happening in Europe....sorry.
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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2004, 01:43:57 PM »
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Soilent Green! (it"s people)

I know :)
It's was named :"green sun" in France, it's his last good film IMO.
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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2004, 01:44:06 PM »
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If you prefer the dont ask dont tell version of this Rude then say so.
But it sounds like you want a bunch of baby fetuses droped off on your door so that you are convinced it happens in your noble country.

You would much prefer that a baby born without 90% of its brain be fed through tubes forever or left to starve to death..

The world is just to complex for you I guess.


The choice in this country is the parents, not the government.

Are you saying to us all here that the US practices the same methods as does the netherlands and greater Europe?
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2004, 01:46:39 PM »
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I googled my little heart out and found nothing similar at all to what is happening in Europe....sorry.


Make a search only between USA and France for example.
France is also part of EU ,but the  laws are different, it's a  fallacie to extend what happen in Nederland to the whole EU.
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2004, 01:47:10 PM »
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Are you trying to say something?

BTW....where do you reside?


pretty sure i said it.. 8)  

What part did you not understand? fuggin or hypocrite? lol

I reside near the free state of Winston county... lmao

Where do you be stay?
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2004, 01:51:14 PM »
Rude, IIRC, Dude=Kappa.

As usual and as before, ad hominem is his best and almost only technique.
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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2004, 01:55:08 PM »
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Rude, IIRC, Dude=Kappa.

As usual and as before, ad hominem is his best and almost only technique.


lol I thought this was very unusual for me.. I was just attempting to be like others here..  Not make any real comments.. Just offer argumentative statements..

But your perception is your reality I guess..

edit.. You whiner..
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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2004, 01:55:21 PM »
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Rude, IIRC, Dude=Kappa.

As usual and as before, ad hominem is his best and almost only technique.


Ahhh....thank you.
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2004, 02:16:24 PM »
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The choice in this country is the parents, not the government.

Are you saying to us all here that the US practices the same methods as does the netherlands and greater Europe?


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The guideline says euthanasia is acceptable when the child's medical team and independent doctors agree the pain cannot be eased and there is no prospect for improvement, and when parents think it's best.


edit.. And yes.. I belive he was saying just that..
« Last Edit: December 01, 2004, 02:40:17 PM by TheDudeDVant »
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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2004, 02:26:56 PM »
I heard they only did it if the babies head wasn't square enough.

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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2004, 10:57:12 PM »
so after they successfully 'Cull the herd' of all of the physical defects they'll be free to start working on mental and emotional issues, right?

what about this baby?  she's pretty homely, got that one eye bigger than the other.   she'll suffer her whole life, kids'll tease her on the playground (they can be so cruel).  she'll probably die an old-maid.   she could live that horible existance for 70, 80 years,  we need to put her down for her own good.   save her from a life of suffering, it'd be barbaric not too.  :rolleyes:

not that you need to worry about a slippery slope here,  this issue has already gone over the edge.
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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2004, 11:08:53 PM »
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recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally ill newborns


So what most of what you guys are proposing they should do is either:
a) drug these babies to eyeballs with painkillers so they are vegetables or
b) let the babies die a cruel, painful slow death

Is this correct?
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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2004, 11:16:09 PM »
What would Hitler have done?
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2004, 11:29:21 PM »
Europe is old and wise.
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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2004, 11:32:30 PM »
Or what would Jesus do?

Surround a premature birth with as much technology as you can fit into a room, and keep it alive artificially... knowing that it will never get beyond where it is now. It doesn't, and hasn't, responded to any treatment since it's birth a few weeks ago.

So.... just... merely being kept alive, because science knows how to do that, at least.

The folks we're talking about are professionals. They're not a bunch of wired hooligans with free run of the hospital's 'good' stash and itching for something to euthanize.

They know when something just is not going to work. Prolly seen it a thousand times, at least.

Should people be forced to subject their children to an apparatus that allows them to maintain a heart beat, and nothing else, just because a heart beat (and nothing else) can be achieved with machines?

So what would Jesus do?

Live and let live. Die and let die. Just a guess. No matter what, everyone winds up in a better place - aint that what they say?
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