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U.S. soldiers in Iraq routinely killed unarmed woman and children,
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2004, 07:09:26 PM »
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See how abstract truth is relative Crummp? You believe what you just posted ... I don't.


So you believe America is looking for Empire huh?  Just like we were on 10 Sep 2002.

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« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2004, 08:09:06 PM »
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No, I believe America has made a big mistake.


Depends on how it ends up.

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« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2004, 11:33:53 PM »
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Originally posted by Crumpp




Iraqi Body Count

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Read the incidents at the top of the scrolling screen and tell me who is responsible for those deaths?  Coalition Forces??

You can bet though the Coalition is being blamed for each death the terrorist cause with roadside bombs, random rocket attacks, and suicide bombers.  That is why they do it because the survivors will blame us.  Hell the press does.

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Who is responsible? We are, Crumpp. We invaded that country unprovoked, and set all this chaos in motion. That's simple to see, isn't it?

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« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2004, 04:34:57 AM »
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We invaded that country unprovoked,


Holy SMOKE!

Way to rewrite History!

Since your probably not in the Military, it just escaped your attention all the SHOOTING SADDAM did at our forces before the invasion.

And that's not even counting the silly games he played with the UN and the rest of the world.

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« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2004, 12:45:22 PM »
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if you're referring to the Iraqis taking pot shots at your aircraft, I must remind you that your aircraft were operating illegally in Iraqi airspace. So, in fact it was you who were provoking the Iraqis.


:rofl :rofl :rofl
Sorry, couldn't help it, that statement is so ludicris

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« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2004, 03:35:11 PM »
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Sorry, couldn't help it, that statement is so ludicris

I don't remember the legal basis of your operation.

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« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2004, 05:30:56 PM »
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I don't remember the legal basis of your operation.


The United Nations resolution to liberate Kuwait and the one that was passed to protect the Kurds from being slaughtered in Northern Iraq.

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« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2004, 11:29:22 PM »
Every coalition plane that operated in Iraqi air space after the ceasefire did so without any international justification and the Iraqis were in their full right to shoot at them.
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« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2004, 12:40:55 AM »
While their was no specific "mandate" to estabilish "no fly zones".  There was a resolution to  protect the Kurds and the Shiite minority.

The No Fly zones were estabilished to do just that.

http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html

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« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2004, 12:56:10 AM »
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You know as well as I that military action must be specifically mandated by the UN,


Where in the world do you get this?

Since When did the UN Member States give up the right to defend themselves?

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« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2004, 02:24:30 AM »
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You know as well as I that military action must be specifically mandated by the UN, and SC resolution 688 did in no way mandate or otherwise authorise military action.


Yeah, right.

I wonder why Gshlitz doesn't ever whine about any other non UN mandated wars in this world? Amercian fetish I guess.

What is a "UN" mandated war anyway....and what special authority or expertise does the UN have in deciding what wars are acceptable?

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« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2004, 08:37:10 AM »
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Iraq did not attack, or pose a threat to the United States.


In whose opinion?  The Norwegians??

Hindsight is 20/20.  Iraq may not have imposed a serious threat.  That was not the perception Saddam deliberately created.  He played a dangerous cat and mouse game with both WMD and AQ.  The United States called his trump card.  

The alternative would have been to wait until the Sarin is released at the local shopping mall.

So your an idiot if you think the United States will not act in it's own self defense.  WE certainly would expect Norway too.   Of course you're so blinded by your anti-American ranting you can see nothing else.

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« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2004, 09:02:27 AM »
all of us Americans are barbarians... when we invade norway you had better just hand over the women and give up... for now we have to go to north dakota to kill norweigan babies.

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« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2004, 09:06:16 AM »
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You don't need the resources of a nation state to make sarin. In fact it is far less risky to simply make it in you garage than to seek assistance from a nation. The Tokyo subway attacks proved that.


Correct.  Sarin was probably a poor example but you get the idea.  We are not going to tolerate WMD in the hands of nuts who would use them.

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He did not at any time create the impression of being a threat to the United States


That is a wonderful piece of fiction!  What color is the sky in your world?

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You're an idiot if you think anyone will ever trust you again. You have set the legal precedence now. It is quite clear that anyone can attack everyone with little or no justification beyond the possibility of a fictional future threat.


You have an astonding ability to rewrite history.  "Little to no Justification" is very much a relative term.  Mounds of physical evidence and the every foreign policy think tank in the world in agreement.  So I would hardly say you are repeating the facts.

Wonder how Norway would feel in our position were things are not quite so academic?  

Is that not the claim Europeans made for years?  

How can we judge Europes actions when the United States has not experienced large civilian causalties?

Big bunch of hypocrites.  

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proven that you can't be trusted to abide by any treaty, and you're a threat to world peace.


The Norweigens are coming!!  The Norweigens are coming!!

Pfft...

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« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2004, 09:09:48 AM »
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Originally posted by Crumpp
The United Nations resolution to liberate Kuwait and the one that was passed to protect the Kurds from being slaughtered in Northern Iraq.

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I don't remember of a UN resolution for the "no fly zone".