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Offline JB88

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« Reply #105 on: December 21, 2004, 02:55:48 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: December 21, 2004, 03:36:06 PM »
Ok, I'll chime in.

As one of the playing populations biggest "whiners" here is my take on it.  

HT listens to everything everyone says.  I honestly don't think he discounts out of hand the stuff coming from the people he doesn't like.  

However, he sees things from a slightly different perspective than most people.. we see something and go "Ya know, I[/i] would enjoy this game so much more if it was different".  

HT has to think about not only what you want, but what everyone wants.  

Some stuff takes time, but I firmly believe that if it is in the best interests of the community as a whole, it will get changed if it needs it.  

And if you really have a question regarding anything... call them up and ask them.  I called Pyro today about the T-34, and we had a very civil conversation about what ammunition was modelled for the T-34.  I made a suggestion for a change that would make my game more enjoyable, he said they were already thinking about doing it but they werent sure if they were going to.  

I've talked to HT on the phone and in person and game issues, he is not some troll looking to bite your head off.  I think a lot of the percieved hostility is that the internet doesn't really convey any kind of emotion like a face to face or phone conversation does.  You are just staring at a bunch of letters marching across a screen, there isn't any kind of physical or audial cues.

Anyway, I really suggest those who think HT & company cherry-pick who they listen to give them a call and talk to one of them in person.  I think you'll be pleasently surprised at the kind of conversation you get.

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« Reply #107 on: December 21, 2004, 04:53:28 PM »
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Originally posted by MANDO
Haze is making an already very dark game even darker. I would like to see very sunny and bright days, not just the darkest winter hazy days.


As i remember it, when AH2 first was released. There were some request for HTC to lighten up some terrain color/brightness because it was to Dark and dreary. HTC did just that. Now we add "Fog" that isnt a fog looking effect at all. Its kind of a very light brown haze. Much like the haze we would have in Arizona on some days. Cant figure why?

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Picture of a Hazy Day viewed from Helicopter
« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2004, 05:18:59 PM »
HAze looks authentic in game if compared to this photo taken while on vacation in the Smokey Mountains.


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« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2004, 05:21:22 PM »
I don't disagree with you Urchin.  My point has to do with communication techniques and controlling expectations.  I have no doubt that Ht reads most all of the posts here which is a good thing.  Nor do I doubt he cares very much about his product.  My point to JB88 was to not bother banging his head against the wall and to watch what he says since the replies seem to focus on the possible negative connotations to the post rather than the point as a whole.  This is my ongoing impression for whatever its worth.  It's not my problem and I don't take it  personally.  What I say is meant in the best possible intent to help improve the situation not inflame it.

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« Reply #110 on: December 21, 2004, 05:23:35 PM »


Why can't I get pictures to show in here?

Prolly not the right place to ask but I have a picture for this discussion I cant seem to get to show  : (
« Last Edit: December 21, 2004, 05:56:15 PM by hitech »

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« Reply #111 on: December 21, 2004, 07:49:48 PM »
I think the major thing is JB88 is trying to tell him he is running his business wrong.  I know nothing about business, but I've seen the population in the MA literally triple in the 3 years I've been here.  

So maybe the my point is it is ok to point out things that you would like change, but criticism on that level isn't even really criticism of the game any more, at least it seems that way to me.

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« Reply #112 on: December 21, 2004, 11:51:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Flayed1
Jackal1 if there are any children here it is you who can't seem to grasp the concept of a bomb sight.
  The fog dosn't let those pesky little fighters see me at 25k in whatever direction anymore.
  If you didn't have any problem with this befor it's because you were one of those that couldn't handle the bombsight and always had to go noe so they couldn't see you on dar and straif down your target with the bombs. And I know you were one of these pilots from personal experiance.
   I say unless you are flying a JU88 or a KI67 leave the lvl bombing to the bombers.
 
Sorry didn't want to take this off subject to far, I still think the fog is graeat. :)



  OK uncle HT I demand a rebate because I didn`t get the e-mail notice that this .........errrrrr ummmmm sigghhh genius had replied in this topic. I`m mortified...... no wait, I`m petrified....................  really at this particualr moment I`m just FRIED. About four hours of CM and coke on the pontoon boat topped of with  an 18 pack gets me all sentimeNTAL like this.
  OK where do I start?  
  OK Played1  ...errr Fragged one...whatever..... yes I`m a child . I can`t deny that. If you want this verified you can ask anyone of my four daughters or one of my nine grandkids.
  As a matter of fact Deth1`s youngest  daughter refers to me as " her little Popaw".
  Now let`s see....... Oh yea, I drifted off there for a bit..... The concept of the "bomb sight" as you put it. What friggen ------> bomb sight? I had no idea bombs had sight.
  Now let`s go to the 25K thingie and your hiding in it. Naw.... let`s don`t . It would get completely off the topic of you stating the probs you were having with Lalas at 20K, Once again..... If you were having problems with Lalas at 20K fog, wind, snow, sleet , hail , chitstorms, acts of God, mildew, mold, allergies, insane postal workers or JOC`s sheep is not gonna help ya.
  Can you say "meat" children?
  Now we can go on. #1 it`s spelled strafe. Experience is spelled like this <---------->>>>>>>> experience.
  Now let`s see....... let`s discuss me and NOE. As far as I`m concerned it stands for No One Escapes. I have never been nor will I ever be a fan of NOE. NOE? Yes. No!
  Strafing down targets in a bomber ....I`m not even gonna touch. It speaks for itself.
  I would go to far to say sir, when it comes to me and your "personal experiance"..... ( that is how you speeeeeeelled it , isn`t it?)....... I have never been and will never be affiliated with Poki Mon. (pun intended)
  Merry Christmas and so on and so on.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2004, 12:47:13 AM by Jackal1 »
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« Reply #113 on: December 21, 2004, 11:56:33 PM »
And furthermore... gosh this seems like old times. Brings a tear to my eye.... the good one. Skuzz leave it up in the holiday spirit. :D
« Last Edit: December 22, 2004, 01:54:21 AM by Jackal1 »
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« Reply #114 on: December 22, 2004, 07:56:43 AM »
I expect everyone sees the haze and the entire game differently since there are so many hardware, software and settings combinations. I'm glad I'm not on the other side of this BBS trying to please everyone and make all those systems and settings make the game look great.

I can accept and adapt to the haze in the current map if it helps framerates of others. I guess you never know how all these people with all these systems will react to a graphical change until you try it and get some feedback...

I do get some 'blocky' and checkerboard haze textures when the sun is low on the horizon. If requested, I can get a screenshot and post it.

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« Reply #115 on: December 22, 2004, 03:34:19 PM »
I like the haze. Reminds me of WBs.

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« Reply #116 on: December 22, 2004, 03:39:18 PM »
Wb's sucks :D