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« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2005, 08:31:10 PM »
Isn't it ironic that those wanting the USA to keep out of other countries affairs and not act as world policeman are the same people at the front of the queue demanding handouts from the US to help the tsunami victims.

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« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2005, 08:49:16 PM »
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Isn't it ironic that those wanting the USA to keep out of other countries affairs and not act as world policeman are the same people at the front of the queue demanding handouts from the US to help the tsunami victims.


Dont even go there. You be sorry if you start that again.

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« Reply #77 on: January 14, 2005, 09:11:34 PM »
Vulcan not much different than how Germany despises what our military is doing and yet when we start talking about closing bases in Germany the local community cries because we would kill their local economy if we left.  The don't mind taking the money brought in by the "war machine" but in the same respect they'll scream about how unjust we are and how ruthless we would be if we removed our bases leaving people without work.

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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2005, 12:33:06 AM »
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Bush Jnr qualified on fast jets, you have to be more than average to do that - speaking of which what is your profession gixer?


Vulcan, since your so fond of Bush's policy in Iraq. When the Bush Admin and Generals say that  only 4 out of the 18 provinces may not be able to participate in the election do you think that's significant?

As for occupation...

I work in IT System Support/Developer Tandem Mainframes and Commercial Helicopter licence and ATPL since 98.

By the way I like the way you always chuck in a personal insult or two in your posts. So what's your occupation dumbarse?




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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2005, 02:01:49 AM »
Cobra, don't you get it, the US went and put their military there, so in fact, you are responsible for the consequent dilemna.
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« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2005, 04:20:55 AM »
Moot if your speaking in regards to Iraq.  I'm sorry but SH is responsible for what has been going on since 1991.  He has consistantly went against sanctions that were imposed upon him after the war and I really don't feel sorry for what is happening now.    

We can sit here and discuss this day in and day out.  Simple fact is he couldn't follow the sanctions that the UN imposed upon him after the Gulf War and the UN didn't bother to press harder when he was violating those sanctions.  He kept being defiant and pushing military hardware into the areas that he knew were off limits.  He exposed his civilian population to the threat of strikes by coalition forces because he would hide his military hardware in and around civilian establishments on a daily basis.  He consistantly tested coalition forces with rapid launches of his combat aircraft into the no fly zones.  He consistantly sent out propoganda about his new long range missile systems.  

Maybe the US shouldn't have used WMD as any kind of major reason for going in.  If he was willing to constantly go against the sanctions then what would keep him from trying to build WMDs?  Being a threat to the US itself is not totally correct.  Yes we have forces stationed in the AOR which means US personel are infact within range if he decided to build such weapons.  We also have allies in the area that are within range of such weapons if he chose to build them.  It should have boiled down to he cannot and refuses to abide by the sanctions imposed upon him by the UN and he is in direct violation.  Violation of those sanctions means the right to use lethal force to make him comply.

These people here can sit here and hug their trees all day as far as I'm concerned.  If they really gave a watermelon about what is happening in Iraq then they would have voted to impose stronger measures to force SH to comply with the sanctions that he brought upon himself.  We didn't force these upon him or his country.  The UN forced these upon him because of his previous actions.  So at one time the UN and all the members of the UN decided that he was enough of a threat to the region to impose such sanctions.  So where were these supposed allies over the past 13 years prior to the US waging war on Iraq?  Why did they stand by while SH constantly violated the sanctions imposed from the Gulf War and say nothing or do nothing to force him to comply?  How many of these countries actually stood by and tried to enforce these sanctions?  Why is it everytime the coalition forces that were there imposing these sanctions hit targets that were in violation that the media and all these countries made such a big deal about the strikes?  

It's easy to sit in your homes far from what is really happening and pass judgement.  Having absolutely no clue as to what is really happening in the area other than what the majority here see on television.  These people haven't seen the targets and their locations realitive to the no fly and no drive zones.  They only see these nice little video clips that have been declassified for public viewing.  These video clips once contained the actually latitude and longitude of the targets which would prove without a doubt SH was in violation.  You also don't see half of the recon photos that show SHs military equipment sitting next to temples, housing complexes and general civilian populated areas.  SH is willing to give the lives of his people to try and make some point about how inhumane the coalition forces are.  Yet he doesn't abide by LOAC or the Geneva Convention and he can't follow simple rules and regulations that were imposed upon him due to his actions in Kuwait.  So how much integrity does a person like this really have?  

People can keep believing whatever they want in regards to WMDs and why the US is now in Iraq.  He was a ruthless dictator that couldn't follow the sanctions from the Gulf War.  He was in direct violation and the UN wouldn't do anything to rectify the situation so now the US and it's allies are.  Keep US bashing because it's obvious we are becoming immune to it and at some point in time it won't be just a few people here and there.  When some country out there decides to take the same path as SH, any requests for help will be greeted with the door being slammed in their face.

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« Reply #81 on: January 15, 2005, 05:25:58 AM »
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Vulcan, since your so fond of Bush's policy in Iraq. When the Bush Admin and Generals say that  only 4 out of the 18 provinces may not be able to participate in the election do you think that's significant?

As for occupation...

I work in IT System Support/Developer Tandem Mainframes and Commercial Helicopter licence and ATPL since 98.

By the way I like the way you always chuck in a personal insult or two in your posts. So what's your occupation dumbarse?




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« Reply #82 on: January 15, 2005, 10:59:12 AM »
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I thought I was alone working on NSK systems :)


LOL

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« Reply #83 on: January 15, 2005, 11:03:14 AM »
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LOL

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« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2005, 11:05:46 AM »
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Cobra, the USA has in no way the right to enforce UN sanctions or punish countries that violate them ... without a UN mandate. The UN didn't give you one because they didn't believe your BS WMD story.

The invasion was illegal. Spending hundreds of billions on a war of choice when thousands of people die every day from hunger and war elsewhere is immoral and wrong.

This war is illegal, immoral and wrong.


If the UN didnt believe SH had or was still trying to preserver his WMD programs why did they keep sending inspectors? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2005, 11:10:09 AM »
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If the UN didnt believe SH had or was still trying to preserver his WMD programs why did they keep sending inspectors? :rolleyes:



Sending inspectors is one thing, using it as an excuse to invade and occupy another country is another.




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« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2005, 11:40:41 AM »
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If the UN didnt believe SH had or was still trying to preserver his WMD programs why did they keep sending inspectors? :rolleyes:


because som elobotomized tars were still crying out that Iraq is full of WMD and they cant sleep.


got it ?

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« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2005, 11:43:50 AM »
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because som elobotomized tars were still crying out that Iraq is full of WMD and they cant sleep.


got it ?


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« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2005, 12:47:11 PM »
And Lada scores... :lol

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« Reply #89 on: January 15, 2005, 12:52:39 PM »
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LOL

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