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« Reply #90 on: January 15, 2005, 01:06:55 PM »
Straffo, Gixer, Lada, Patrone and others against the Iraq war.

Can you explain to anyone what exactly it is that upsets you about the war?

Then explain what other wars upset you to an equal degree.

There are lots of wars and conflicts in the world that the UN did not "give permission" for. Why is is that Iraq is the one that really makes you upset?

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« Reply #91 on: January 15, 2005, 02:30:59 PM »
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Straffo, Gixer, Lada, Patrone and others against the Iraq war.

Can you explain to anyone what exactly it is that upsets you about the war?

Then explain what other wars upset you to an equal degree.

There are lots of wars and conflicts in the world that the UN did not "give permission" for. Why is is that Iraq is the one that really makes you upset?


Because the following things.

1. The false causes given.
Blix wanted more time to search for the WMD´s
In this he was brushed off and statment from countryleaders that Iraq had the ability to deploy WMD within 45 min.

If more time was given, maybe, UN would have came to the same conclusion that it took USA nearly 1200 men during 2 years and a budget of 700 million dollars.

2. The use of your double standard.
A dictatorship can never be good, but use this argument to attack a soverign country is a little strong.
If this was the real reason, then why didnt you start out liberating in South America or Saudi-Arabia, where actully most of the terrorists attackers from 911 came?
(because these dictatorship are sponsered and supported by USA?)

3. The claimes that the goverment of Iraq had close bonds to Al-quada. Not proven to be correct.



Simple said, your reasons to make a country suffer so much, to kill civilians, women and children.
To be cowards, to let it happend so far away. Without risk to get retaliated.

Yes, You are really cowards to hit guys that cant hit back.

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« Reply #92 on: January 15, 2005, 02:33:32 PM »
Patrone, what other wars upset you? Reasons given? LOL! What other war needs a good reason?

You are a joke.

I don't recall you EVER protesting any other conflict in the world.....and there are lots.

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« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2005, 02:38:49 PM »
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Because the following things.


If more time was given, maybe, UN would have came to the same conclusion that it took USA nearly 1200 men during 2 years and a budget of 700 million dollars.

Simple said, your reasons to make a country suffer so much, to kill civilians, women and children.
To be cowards, to let it happend so far away. Without risk to get retaliated.

Yes, You are really cowards to hit guys that cant hit back.


You are not very intelligent.

After the UN cleared Saddam, are you saying he could be trusted to not rebuild his military and wmd? I'd rather know for sure than trust Saddam and his UN buddies/partners in crime.

And killing civilians? Are you sane? Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of them.

You have no argument other than your hate for the US. Make a logical argument, please.

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« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2005, 02:42:45 PM »
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To be cowards, to let it happend so far away. Without risk to get retaliated.

Yes, You are really cowards to hit guys that cant hit back.


So, all nations that go to war need to make sure the other guy can hit back, or else they are cowards?

hahahaha. Clown.

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« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2005, 02:44:22 PM »
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Patrone, what other wars upset you? Reasons given? LOL! What other war needs a good reason?

You are a joke.

I don't recall you EVER protesting any other conflict in the world.....and there are lots.




Oh Old pal, as we go way back, knowing eachother and you know so much about me.

I have never been this much upset over any war during my grown life as this war.

And a joke? Just the kind of comment one could expect from you, when I answer your questions asked

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« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2005, 02:48:03 PM »
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Oh Old pal, as we go way back, knowing eachother and you know so much about me.

I have never been this much upset over any war during my grown life as this war.

And a joke? Just the kind of comment one could expect from you, when I answer your questions asked


You say that the US is killing Iraqi civilians? Do you agree that Saddam killed 100's of thousands of them?

What is it that upsets you more, the US trying to remove Saddam ?

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« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2005, 03:20:25 PM »
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You say that the US is killing Iraqi civilians? Do you agree that Saddam killed 100's of thousands of them?

What is it that upsets you more, the US trying to remove Saddam ?


I know about the Saddams killing of 100´s of thousands but not on what grounds he did this: maybe you can inform me better about Iraqs internal affairs? Maybe you can tell me about the uprising encauraged by US during Iraq 1?

But I dont see how his killing of 100´s of thousands, can defend you guys doing the same: To kill the same amount in 2 years as he had 20 years to complete.

You guys are sick in your retorics. Just like the looser who posted about that Abu gaib Guard who got sentenced to 15 years:

"if you are stupid enough to let your pals photograph you while doing it, you deserve 15 years".

Makes me sick and many of you guys post "I pray for you", the double standard used are shocking.  If you really belive so much in God, why don´t you fear him?

I doubt nobody will suprised the next time a BIG "BOOOOOOM" is heard from inside USA and most will actully say : "We´ll, they had it coming".

I dont think that anyone deserves this, really

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« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2005, 03:24:42 PM »
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But I dont see how his killing of 100´s of thousands, can defend you guys doing the same: To kill the same amount in 2 years as he had 20 years to complete.

 


I'm not going to respond to you anymore....you are obviously insane, or a liar.

So, Iraq is the one war in your life that hurts you the most? You must be an idiot.

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« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2005, 03:42:03 PM »
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Straffo, Gixer, Lada, Patrone and others against the Iraq war.

Can you explain to anyone what exactly it is that upsets you about the war?

Then explain what other wars upset you to an equal degree.

 


I wouldnt say that im upset about the war.
I were upset when first black eye iraqi lady died. [damm i should get married :D ]
I were glad when those who were paid to kill other started to  die as well.

I were upset, when Bush assigned reconstruction contracts before/during war w/o tenders and US`s people didnt mind in.

Im glad that all that parade of BS has turned to be an international shame.


So do you realy wanna know why so many people mind Iraqi war ?

Because some hillbilly told us, that we are stupid and we should follow him coz he have enough money to shave 2x a day.


But what made me laugh about Afghanistan and Iraq is fact that mickey mouse army is not even able  to secure one city.


Lets compare it to Russian vs. Afhanistan war.

Russia didnt even claim that they are spreading freedom or something special.. they simply went for afhanistan w/o attempt to convince own people that they are "terrorist supports" if they do not agree with that war. And they returned with shame as well :p [btw im foreteller ]




hint.:
Did you ever think, why US "disarmed" afghanistan and left rest on UN, whitch did a good job overthere. And why US went otherway in Iraq and clearly failed? [can you imagine faces of all those COE who were horny to make billions of $$ in Iraq :] ]

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« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2005, 03:46:17 PM »
Lada, ever wonder why no other war is ever mentioned?

The US went to war against Iraq. What's the big deal? Plenty of other wars and conflics on a much greater scale, yet everyone wants to make Iraq the most important....it's the end of the world.


The US does not go to war on a whim. We are not war mongers.

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« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2005, 03:51:30 PM »
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Vulcan, since your so fond of Bush's policy in Iraq. When the Bush Admin and Generals say that  only 4 out of the 18 provinces may not be able to participate in the election do you think that's significant?

As for occupation...

I work in IT System Support/Developer Tandem Mainframes and Commercial Helicopter licence and ATPL since 98.

By the way I like the way you always chuck in a personal insult or two in your posts. So what's your occupation dumbarse?

...-Gixer


Don't like personal insults do you? Hmmmm...

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I just think their leader is an idiot


I was merely pointing out, that if you do the jobs you say you do, and are working towards your ATPL then you should know that it is not a simple thing to qualify to fly jets.

4 provinces out of 18, how much more is that than could vote before?

Me, I work in IT, specifically security and networking.

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« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2005, 03:57:54 PM »
Gixer, I admit.....after the US got ride of Saddam, the Iraqis will no loger have a 100% vote for Saddam.

Saddam got 100% of the vote in the last "election" That is a benchmark for all democracies and proves that he was the people's President.

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« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2005, 04:04:27 PM »
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4 provinces out of 18, how much more is that than could vote before?

Me, I work in IT, specifically security and networking.


Well may be you could go and practivce some IOS cmds and then there will raise a question on your mind.
Why cisco teach in CCNA that Rip1 doesnt support smaller subnetmasks that C class, while RIP support it regaring norms.. ehh ?


well just kidding.. the proper question is...
How many provinces has been excluded in Afghanistan, where election has been run by UN ?


Exclude 2/5 of people from the election and call it democratic election must be some new emrekan way.....

But i think that in US its quite normal as well, so it do not surprise me :D

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« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2005, 04:06:36 PM »
Lada, what country are you in? Afraid to tell anyone? ashamed?

Let's here about your country and it's fantastic history.