how iraq was, is, and shall continue to be a total f - up

[RedTop]

Originally posted by patrone
Thank you weaselsan that was a true declaration of love, good then it is mutual.
I find most of the posts interesting,even if some are stupid. How ever, the ones who only can end an argument with nothing else then the namecalling game, are put on ignore: one big exception is: Martlet.

pot and kettle:rolleyes:

[Staga]

Originally posted by Boroda

At school they didn't even tell us that bull**** about "Finland attacking USSR". And I first heard about Mainila from Grendel on this BBS... I hope you see that I try to be honest.

Did you know that Leningrad's population should build a statue for C.G.E Mannerheim for his actions in WW2 ?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Staga
Did you know that Leningrad's population should build a statue for C.G.E Mannerheim for his actions in WW2 ?

Mannerheim was a great man, but it seems to me that it was a fortified line on the old border that kept you guys from taking Leningrad You simply didn't have heavy artillery to break it. Using Occam's razor I find this explaination more reasonable.

[JB88]

Originally posted by NUKE
You are not correct. no genocide.

America legaly obtained our land from England, Spain, France and Mexico. We didn't steal anyone's land.

The Indians and Americans had a war, the Indians lost the war. Pretty much the story. We did not slaughter the Indians......anymore than the Indians slaughtered each other and Eurpeans before us.

JB88, how old are you?

i am 35.  i am educated and not some idiot off the street.  (not to say that education makes me more aware, but it is a sign of one who seeks knowledge).  how would you define blankets shipped to the indians infected with a life taking virus? would you consider that a parting gift as opposed to genoside.

legallity had little to do with morallity, and i would ask you sir to refrain from suchsilly commentaries as "how old are you" if you wish to be taken seriously.  

thats personal.  it just doesnt count.

lets stick to the facts nuke.  everybody knows what it means when one resorts to such attacks.

period.

read "left my heart at wounded knee."

research treaties signed by the us government which were then ruled non binding the moment that prescious metals were found.

if there is one thing that i despise about this country, it is that our soul, however honorable it may want to be, lies to itself consistantly...as if it were and addict...as if it wanted to hide its flaws.

i challenge you to name one flaw in this country, aside from those who disagree with you.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Crumpp
Osama would be very proud of you.  Your just what they are looking for, Ju88!

Lets check out these "insurgents" who just want to free Iraq from "occupying" coalition!

 



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4199363.stm

Crumpp

crump.  that is pure sillyness.

our country was founded on dissent, and i find it rather narrow that you would take such a view rather than focusing on the issues.

i have stated plainly and quite often that osama and the taliban are the targets that we should be focusing on.  

you cant deny that.  it has been said.  over and over.

period.

[JB88]

Originally posted by NUKE
You claim to have knowledge that he is dead? Just because it fits what you believe to be a conspracy in your pin-head little brain? Give us the proof.

And what purpose does the US have in saying Zarqawi is alive when he may be dead?

I have heard that the Iraqis may have him in custody. Guess we will see, huh? Meanwhile, your country sits on it's hands and does nothing.

And what has your piss ant country ever done for anyone? You like to take shots at the US,  you miserable, bitter POS.

This BB is the only place you can vent your BS towards America....isn't that sad for you.

I wish Suzzy would get rid or your sorry bellybutton for good.

how does patrone have a pin little brain?  i have read his posts and his arguements are rational.

i have yet to see him resort to name calling.  ever.

[RedTop]

Hi JB88

the fact that its said over and over doesnt make it so. its still just an opinion.  Just a thought there:)

[JB88]

I wish Suzzy would get rid or your sorry bellybutton for good. - nuke.

wow.

that would help,

nothing like free speech is there nuke?

[JB88]

Originally posted by RedTop
Hi JB88

the fact that its said over and over doesnt make it so. its still just an opinion.  Just a thought there:)

its all opinion redtop.

but that never makes it more or less valid.

personal is not political.  

we are a free country.  we are entitled by law and by history to our opinion.  even nuke is.  would you agree?

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Boroda
I have written above that in Soviet times I have never heard about it too, I just never wanted to find anything about it, and at school they didn't focus on Finish occupation of Karelia. I discovered this information when I travelled in Karelia, and then I found a link to that book by Finnish author: "Finland as an occupant, 1941-44".

In Soviet times many things were not mentioned and not brought to public, because it was inapropriate to tell bad things about freinds.

In general Soviet people are unaware of Finnish atrocities, except in Karelia and Leningrad. I was born in Leningrad, and I know a little more then others about what Finns did during WWII

At school they didn't even tell us that bull**** about "Finland attacking USSR". And I first heard about Mainila from Grendel on this BBS... I hope you see that I try to be honest.

Next time I talk to my Russian friends I'll have to ask them what part of Russia they are from.

Kinda wierd....all the conversations we have had.....including ones about their reasons for leaving Russia, that I never thought to ask what part of Russia they are from heh.....I'll have to rectify that

[RedTop]

Yep.  I would agree.

I guess I'm getting older (my dad told me this would happen) and I find some people's voice just FLAT annoying. If you get my drift.

Not that they don't have a right to speak, but that I would rather knock their friggin teeth out than to listen to em.

Not real christian like on my part I admit.

[JB88]

if i had one wish red, it would be that all of us could speak, knowing that we are brothers in every sense; that we all have a mind and a reason.

if we could all agree upon that, then  there would be no need for name calling, for we would see that we are all fallible, that our opinions do not amount to truth.  but in the thing itself, the result, the thing so often unseen, the experience that we discuss and lay claim too....somewhere in there, there lies a truth.  we may fight against it, we may rail against its power, but it consumes us by the very virtue of its honesty.

i want for it everyday.

it is my reason for being.

god, i like feeling small.  and god there
is nothing like love.

(edited for spelling)

[Staga]

Originally posted by Boroda
Mannerheim was a great man, but it seems to me that it was a fortified line on the old border that kept you guys from taking Leningrad You simply didn't have heavy artillery to break it. Using Occam's razor I find this explaination more reasonable.

Wrong answer. Try to find better explanation from historybooks and when you've find it ask yourself does it make any sense with your sentence "hundreeds of thousands of Soviet citizens starved by Finns..

Also try to find out why were Finnish citizens also starving at 1941/1942.

You may learn something new.

[Staga]

LOL

Aftermath

According to interim peace terms majority of POWs were changed between 16.4 - 25.4.1940. 74 of them refused to return back to USSR.

Good reading for Boroda...
http://www.geocities.com/finnmilpge/fmp_pow_camps.html

[RedTop]

Well JB88....your dream/idea is commendable. Would be a great thing if that were life.

Alas...life isnt like that. Nor do I think it will ever be or even come close to being.

There are way to many other failing of the human race to ever let the world get along. To be able to discuss opinions and to actually see the truth.

The "truth" is....that there is no truth most times...only opinions that become reality. Thus , becomeing what others think of as the truth. (did I just say that?)