Author Topic: Greatest American (Read 2227 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:17:20 PM »

BlueJ, so you excuse the Slaveowners for all the lives they ruined? You excuse the germans for all the lives they ruined?

JB88 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:17:22 PM »

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Originally posted by JB73
what's funny about him is that he has helped bring the country together more than "stomp out the inferior races" or whatever.

how many time have you seen white, black, yellow, red, and whatever people come out and join together in protesting the KKK?

not that that is any reason he is a good person, i just find it ironic that the KKK rallies usually bring out 10 times more protesters AGAINST the KKK than they ever have show up.

that movie with sandra bullock, samuel jackson, and mathew mc... however you spell it was a great example.

i have yet to meet in person someone who doesn't hate the KKK and i mean hate.. not just "think they are mis-guided"

i know how THAT works....lol

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:23:20 PM »

laser-can you read ?

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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Im NOT condoning slavery.

Now a days we see it as bad, Which it is.

It was believed ok by other Nazi Germans to kill millions.Now its viewed wrong, Which it most definatly is.

Slavery was viewed ok during its times. Now its viewed bad and is.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:24:28 PM »

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Originally posted by wombatt
I don't see how military service automatically makes you the greatest American.

But in that vain I would go with Gen George Smith Patton.

http://www.sgtjohnbasilone.com/SGT%20JOHN%20BASILONE%20FOUNDATION/WEBSITE/home.htm

bunch · « **Reply #49 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:43:18 PM »

From context, we know the answer must be one of the Wright Bros., Eddie Rickenbacker, Lindberg, Bob Hoover, Dick Bong or Staiga.

Glas · « **Reply #50 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:46:30 PM »

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Originally posted by wombatt
The Rev Martin Luther King.
This man was trying to bring us all together the right way thru
the love of ones self and God.
If he had of lived the world would be better I am sure of that.

Amen.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:47:59 PM »

Oh, I can read. The question is, do you read what you type out?

Because you're perfectly condoning what was done to slaves and jews. And I'm not twisting your words to make it sound like you are.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #52 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:50:37 PM »

Easy.

John Wayne

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:50:39 PM »

I must not be able to read then. Bucause I thought by stating, NOT condoning and believing slavery and the death of millions is wrong, to mean just that. Guess not...

And it was thought by people of those times that it was ok. Those were other people's belief of those time periods.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #54 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:57:33 PM »

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Originally posted by wombatt
Thats is true but ownership only encouraged the slave trade by fueling the need for more slaves.

And the fact that he screwed one of his slaves hardly makes him
man of the year LOL.

Would you rather he gave them to another not so kind slave owner?
Given the circumstances and the attitude of the times when most didnt see anything wrong with it. Being owned by Jefferson was probably the best possible situation for them at the time.
They were certainly better off with him then alot of other places they could have been. When even Free blacks werent exactly treated with kindess
and wasnt it Jefferson one of the first to speak out against slavery?

Then someone mentioned Lincoln.

I remember him being quoted as saying "If I could win this war by freeing all the slaves I'll do that. I'f I can win this was by freeing some of the slaves I will do that. And if I could win this war by not freeing a single slave, I will also do that"

JB88 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 14, 2005, 07:20:37 PM »

dude. they didnt screw.

they made sweet love.

bigot.

JB88 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 14, 2005, 07:22:23 PM »

for me it is jefferson because he was the one who drafted the document that ultimately broke the chains of slavery.

we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal.

Sikboy · « **Reply #57 on:** January 14, 2005, 07:26:15 PM »

John Marshall

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #58 on:** January 14, 2005, 07:26:50 PM »

Speaking of Slavery.

I am curious about somthing.

Slavery and Slave Trading was big buisness.

Who owned the companies and the ships that went and got the slaves?

Is there a list somewhere?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 14, 2005, 07:31:13 PM »

JB88, not even close.

When he said that, he meant all ****WHITE LAND OWNING CHRISTIANS**** but had to trim it down to fit on the paper...

You can give all the excuses you want, it doesn't excuse the Fact that Jefferson owned slaves.