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« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2005, 11:13:01 AM »
But I still like to see the Ju88c

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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2005, 11:19:05 AM »
Ju388


Type: (L) Reconnaissance, (J) Night Fighter,
    (K) Bomber
Origin: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenwerke AG
Models: L-Series, J-Series, and K-Series
Crew: Ju 388L: 3
First Flight: N/A
Final Delivery: N/A
Number Produced:
    Ju 388L: 47     Ju 388J: 3     Ju 388K: 15

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Engine:
Most:
  Model: BMW 801TJ
  Type: 18-Cylinder two-row radial
  Number: Two       Horsepower: 1,890 hp

Some:
  Model: Junkers Jumo 213E
  Type: 12-Cylinder Liquid-cooled Inverted Vee
  Number: Two       Horsepower: 1,750 hp

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Dimensions:
Wing span: 72 ft. 2 in. (22.00m)
Length:
    Ju 388L-1: 49 ft. 10.5 in. (15.20m)
    Ju 388J-1: 53 ft. 5.5 in. (16.29m)
        With Tail Warning Radar: 58 ft. 1 in.
Height: 14 ft. 3 in. (4.35m)
Wing Surface Area: 602.80 sq. ft.
   Weights:
Empty:
    Ju 388L-1: 22,810 lb. (10,345 kg)
    Ju 388J-1: 22,928 lb. (10,400 kg)
Loaded:
    Ju 388L-1 & J-1: 32,350 lb. (14,675 kg)

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Performance:
Maximum Speed:
    Ju 388L-1: 407 mph (655 kph)
    Ju 388J-1: 362 mph (582 kph)
Initial Climb: N/A
Service Ceiling (Typical): 44,000 ft. (13,500m)
Range with internal fuel:
    Ju 388L-1: 1,838 miles (2950 km)

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Armament:
Ju 388J-1:
Two 30mm cannon firing forward.
Two 20mm MG 151 cannon firing forward.
Two 20mm MG 151 cannon in Shrage Musik Installation in rear fuselage.

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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2005, 11:34:19 AM »
Me 209II



Crew: 1
Span: 10.95 meters
Length: 9.62 meters
Height: 4.00 meters
Wing surface: 17.15 sq m.
Wing load: 238 kg/sq m
Weight empty: 3 338 kg
Weight loaded: 4 085 kg


Propulsion
Maximum speed: 745 kph
Armament
1 30 mm gun
2 20 mm guns

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« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2005, 05:09:10 PM »
Angus,

Oh, I'm done wasting perk points on the Spitfire Mk XIV.  It simply isn't worth the points.  That said, I don't see that it is far off. I do recall that Pyro reduced it's climb rate / acceleration in AH2 though.

Gear,

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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2005, 05:39:09 PM »
Gear,

You are in effect stealing band width from the warbirds research group and luft archive by cross posting their images.

Not to mention copying and pasting the text with out referencing the source.

You could just linked back to those sites.

At least then they get the credit they paid for.

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« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2005, 05:51:05 PM »
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Fruda,

Most Spitfire Mk XIVs were high backed Mk XIVe types.  The bubble cannopy you're thinking of didn't enter service until march or april, 1945 and was a Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe.  The FR was for Fighter-Recon.

The Spitfire Mk XIV in AH is powered by a Griffon 65, as all Mk XIVs were, and has a critical altitude of about 27,000ft as it should and does 447mph which is very close to the RAF's 448mph claim..  I don't know where you heard the Mk XIV should do 452 at 22,000ft.  That sounds like the proper numbers for the Bf109K-4.



Thanks for telling me its true performance. My information source was wrong (again). Still, as I said, it's not even worth a perk price. It shouldn't have been perked, EVER.

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« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2005, 07:49:19 AM »
There is quite a big difference what the MA needs and what ToD will need.

ToD will need for the gaps between the nations to be closed.

Atm there is no way there can be a Tour based on the east front because of the huge gaps in the Soviet arsenal.

Also I dont know what role troops will play in ToD and what role "goon planes" will have in ToD but we only have the C47 atm.

Adding planes imho should be focued to fill out the gaps for ToD instead of adding high performance planes for MA.

When it comes to variants of existing planes I really hope that HTC will do what they have done with the P38, add more variants as they rework each type. This will give us depth in the current plane types we have and fix issues with them beeing "historicaly off".

So imho how the goals should be for plane addition and reworks:

*Rework add variants and fix "off" variants.
*New additions focus on closing gaps in the nations to allow better ToD setups.

Tex.

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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2005, 01:45:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Widewing As to that fellow who mentioned the serial numbers beginning with 42; serial numbers reflect those assigned when the contract was signed, and do not reflect actual delivery or in-service dates. There were P-51Bs and Cs with 42 serial numbers, but the first P-51B did not arrive in Britain until September of 1943.


Yeah, ya got me there. Some research and I found this on Joe Baughers website:

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Starting in July of 1921 (the beginning of FY 1922) a new system was adopted based on procurement within each Fiscal Year. Each serial number now consisted of a base number corresponding to the last two digits of the FY in which money was used to manufacture the aircraft, and a sequence number indicating the sequential order in which the particular aircraft was ordered within that particular FY. For example, airplane 22-1 was the first aircraft ordered in FY 1922, 23-1 was the first example ordered in FY 1923, etc. This system is still in use today.

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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2005, 02:23:59 AM »
Like others mentioned much more gap fillers would be needed for Eastern front or PTO setups. It would be natural to assume that the TOD would start out with ETO, while HTC develop gap fillers for other setups.

 I seem to recall either HT or Pyro mentioning it'd be starting out with 8th AF attack on Germany, but maybe things would change.

 To do the 8th AF Scenario, we'd need new B-17s, new 190s, new 109s, new P-51s, and new P-47s. Ofcourse, there's no saying that ETO TOD will start up with all new-modelled planes, and some planes in the TOD still might use old cockpits and models.. but still, if I may take a guess, I think HTC would want to open a great new start featuring all planes in the first TOD setup using the "new standard" as seen in the Ki-84 and P-38.

 So, I have a feeling that we'll get to see new 190 models soon. (...which is why I'm a bit reluctant about finishing off the 190 historic skins project, which again, btw, have 190F skins left.. :D )

 There have been guesses that Pyro may be reworking on 190 FM..  not to mention the fact that the 190 models are one of the oldest in the game now. The last 190 model we've received was a Fw190D-9(excluding the Ta152), and that was in AHv1.05. IIRC, the Fw190As were included from beta and remained as it is ever since!!

 
 So, I expect maybe one new aircraft, and remodelled Fw190s in the next next big update! :)

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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2005, 07:16:08 AM »
La5 looks like it was chipped out of wood in 10 chops.
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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2005, 09:57:29 AM »
P-47M.

Perk it at 250 all the time I wouldn't care :)

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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2005, 03:40:41 PM »
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La5 looks like it was chipped out of wood in 10 chops.



Yeah, both the La-5FN and La-7 need serious model/texture updates.

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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2005, 06:13:34 PM »
First...
No more uber planes...
Second...
uber-bips would be great ( last generation biplanes )

That said,
the P-39n would be nice. Below 10k it could out turn any LW plane. Lots-o-ammo too.

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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2005, 06:16:48 PM »
Yes, biplanes. Biplanes good. Put that right up there on my list with the Me-410 and the 'widow :D
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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2005, 12:57:09 AM »
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P40 N.


Here, here.  I second the P40N!!


Seems to me, with the P38s coming out, and the B-24 before that, the USAF has been taken care of.

Ki-84 release should have satisfied the Japanesing crowd.

Next up would then be a choice of the Brits, Russians or Luftwabbies.

I hope we see the Russian list expanded:  Yak-1, Pe-2 or Pe-4.  Any or all would do. :) :) :)