Author Topic: China/Taiwan (Read 3251 times)

Raider179 · « **on:** January 21, 2005, 12:46:37 PM »

Anyone else get the feeling china is waiting for the U.S. to get tired of fighting in Iraq and is gonna make a move on Taiwan?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2005, 12:50:22 PM »

Hmm that would be the start of a real world war 3, is China that Dumb?

Given time they will get it back economicaly.

Sandman · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:41:29 PM »

For that matter... Is the U.S. that dumb?

In a war between China and the U.S. I don't think there will be a winner.

NUKE · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:43:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
For that matter... Is the U.S. that dumb?

In a war between China and the U.S. I don't think there will be a winner.

Are you kidding? China can't even take Taiwan. We would decimate China and they couldn't touch us.

Sandman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:46:48 PM »

You do realize that China has the largest army on the planet?

NUKE · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:48:09 PM »

yeah, and they can't move that army anywhere in the world.

We would decimate them. They have ZERO ability to project a force anywhere.

They could not touch the US, and we could obliterate them.

Sandman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:51:03 PM »

So they're not about to invade the U.S.

That hardly means that we could simply waltz through China as if it were Iraq.

There's also that nuke thing.

NUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:54:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
So they're not about to invade the U.S.

That hardly means that we could simply waltz through China as if it were Iraq.

There's also that nuke thing.

we could destroy China with conventional forces, China could not begin to touch the US.

If the nuclear option is on the table, then China loses again.

JB88 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2005, 02:58:30 PM »

im quite certain that they could touch at least a few hundred thousand of us before we both turned the oceans to glass and extinguished all life on earth nuke. (pun intended)

we can have as many super expensive techno explodey toys as our country can produce and it still wouldnt change the fact that we have a meager 5% of the worlds population.

perhaps if we sent our guys in one at a time it might make it last longer?

that said, i dont think that china will, or that we would actually go to war with them if they did.

no oil there.

JB88 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:00:09 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
yeah, and they can't move that army anywhere in the world.

We would decimate them. They have ZERO ability to project a force anywhere.

They could not touch the US, and we could obliterate them.

um. wed have to mobilize our already paper thin military and take it to them yes?

pretty sure they'd find a way to touch us.

they are nuclear as well.

and lets not forget a little conventional war i like to call "korea".

like butta that one was.

vietnam? cakewalk.

iraq? everything coming up roses.

Raider179 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:10:33 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
we could destroy China with conventional forces, China could not begin to touch the US.

If the nuclear option is on the table, then China loses again.

woahhhh lol We could huh? Maybe you just arent uptodate on chinese military equipment.

Want to explain China losing the nuclear option? There would be no winner we would all perish if that happens.

The post is China invading Taiwan Not invading the continental U.S.

JB88 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:13:31 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2

Given time they will get it back economicaly.

quite a little manufacturing outfit they got there too.

i have to agree with you on that one. it will be economic.

NUKE · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:14:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
woahhhh lol We could huh? Maybe you just arent uptodate on chinese military equipment.

Want to explain China losing the nuclear option? There would be no winner we would all perish if that happens.

The post is China invading Taiwan Not invading the continental U.S.

China would lose a nuclear exchange... they can't hit all of the US, not even close.

And China could not even take Taiwan with conventional forces.

Raider179 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:22:37 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
China would lose a nuclear exchange... they can't hit all of the US, not even close.

And China could not even take Taiwan with conventional forces.

They cant? Ever hear of submarines? There ICBM's can go up to 15000 km (most of the continental U.S) and the SLBM have ranges well over 1000 km That is fairly well off the coast of the U.S. and capable of delivering warheads in the 200-300 kiloton range. So explain again how they cant hit us. And those are just the missiles we know of.

2nd part great evidence you swayed my opinion...NOT

JB88 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2005, 03:24:32 PM »

they cant hit all of the US?

someone please remind me how many thermonuclear detonations it takes to achieve global fallout conditions?

Intercontinental Nuclear Forces

China currently maintains a minimal intercontinental nuclear deterrent using land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). The Dong Feng-5 (DF-5) liquid-fueled missile, first deployed in 1981, has a range of 13,000 km and carries a single multi-megaton warhead. Twenty are believed to be deployed in central China, southwest of Beijing. Unlike China's earlier ballistic missiles, which were stored in caves and moved out for launch, the DF-5 can be launched directly from vertical silos—but only after a two-hour fueling process. In order to increase the survivability of the DF-5s, dummy silos are placed near the real silos. The DF-5's range gives it coverage of all of Asia and Europe, and most of the United States. The south-eastern US states are at the edge of the missile's range.