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Offline Rasker

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« on: February 03, 2005, 09:28:03 PM »
Matthias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge  German
publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering
attack in  DIE WELT, Germany's largest daily newspaper,
against the timid reaction of  Europe in the face of the
Islamic threat.

EUROPE - THY NAME IS  COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few  days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag,
"Europe - your family name  is appeasement." It's a phrase
you can't get out of your head because it's  so terribly
true.

Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews  their lives
as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and
hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to
be fought, not  bound to toothless agreements.

Appeasement legitimized and stabilized  Communism in the
Soviet Union, then East Germany, then all the rest of
Eastern Europe where for decades, inhuman, suppressive,
murderous  governments were glorified as the ideologically
correct alternative to all  other possibilities.

Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran  rampant in
Kosovo, and even though we had absolute proof of ongoing
mass-murder, we Europeans debated and debated and debated,
and were  still debating when finally the Americans had to
come from halfway around  the world, into Europe yet again,
and do our work for us.

Rather than  protecting democracy in the Middle East,
European appeasement, camouflaged  behind the fuzzy word
"equidistance," now countenances suicide bombings in
Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.

Appeasement generates a  mentality that allows Europe to
ignore nearly
500,000 victims of Saddam's  torture and murder machinery
and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the
peace-movement, has the gall to issue bad grades to George
Bush... Even  as it is uncovered that the loudest critics
of the American action in Iraq  made illicit billions, no,
TENS of billions, in the corrupt U. N.  Oil-for-Food
program.

And now we are faced with a particularly  grotesque form of
appeasement...
How is Germany reacting to the  escalating violence by
Islamic
fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere?  By suggesting
that we really should have a "Muslim Holiday" in  Germany.

I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction
of our
(German) Government, and if the polls are to be believed,
the  German people, actually believe that creating an
Official State "Muslim  Holiday" will somehow spare us from
the wrath of the fanatical  Islamists.

One cannot help but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain
waving the
laughable treaty signed by Adolf Hitler, and declaring
European "Peace in our time".

What else has to happen before the  European public and its
political
leadership get it? There is a sort of  crusade underway, an
especially
perfidious crusade consisting of  systematic attacks by
fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians, directed  against
our free, open Western societies, and intent upon Western
Civilization's utter destruction.

It is a conflict that will most  likely last longer than
any of the great military conflicts of the last  century -
a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by
"tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually spurred on
by such  gestures, which have proven to be, and will always
be taken by the Islamists  for signs of weakness.

Only two recent American Presidents had the  courage needed
for
anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.

His American  critics may quibble over the details, but we
Europeans know the truth. We  saw it first hand: Ronald
Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing half of the  German
people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual slavery.
And  Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair,
acting on moral  conviction, recognized the danger in the
Islamic War against democracy. His  place in history will
have to be evaluated after a number of years have  passed.

In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic
self-confidence in the multicultural corner, instead of
defending  liberal society's values and being an attractive
center of power on the same  playing field as the true
great powers, America and China.

On the  contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in
contrast to those "arrogant  Americans", as the World
Champions of "tolerance", which even (Germany's  Interior
Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes. Why?
Because we're  so moral? I fear it's more because we're so
materialistic, so devoid of a  moral compass.

For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge
amounts of
additional national debt, and a massive and persistent
burden on the
American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe,
Bush realizes what is at stake - literally everything.

While we  criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of
America because they seem too  sure of their priorities, we
timidly defend our Social Welfare systems. Stay  out of it!
It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss reducing our
35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of
paid  vacation... Or listen to TV pastors preach about the
need to "reach out to  terrorists. To understand and
forgive".

These days, Europe reminds me  of an old woman who, with
shaking hands, frantically hides her last pieces  of
jewelry when she notices a robber breaking into a
neighbor's  house.

Appeasement? Europe, thy name is 'Cowardice'.

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 09:34:23 PM »
I find this simply  amazing.

Matthias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German publisher Axel Springer AG, is incredibly arrogant. Clearly, he is uneducated and a fool.

Beyond that he is most assuredly a CIA plant, is in the pay of the US and probably had an American mother or father.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2005, 09:47:15 PM »
The guy is not european. No way. No how. NO European would say such stuff.

I would like a dna test done on the guy before I am exposed to suck vile spewings on this BBS.:lol :lol
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2005, 10:28:01 PM »
The average european (ie: wimp) does not want to piss off the average suicide bomber.  I guess you cant blame the poor bastards.

Muahahaha :rofl
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2005, 10:33:32 PM »
Yeager,

Are you saying that France actually triumphed in WW2 and has made the rest of Europe into it's own image????





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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2005, 10:46:41 PM »
Wow...!  Just when I was starting to think nobody over there 'Had a Clue'.... this guy comes out of nowhere....

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2005, 11:10:29 PM »
We should remember that several European governments other than special ally Britain came in with us in liberating Iraq, and public opinion in liberated former Communist states is a world away from what you find in Western Europe  Perhaps instead of blanket condemnation of the entire continent, we should talk about appeasers, "Quislings" or "Vichyites", or maybe use Rumsfeld's "Old Europe" term.

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2005, 01:37:41 AM »
I should remember that some (not all) have jelly in the skull.

It's Döpfner not Dapfner.


This article is several month old (at least 2).

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2005, 05:02:06 AM »
So letme get this straight.

Most  Europeans are the same in your American eyes yeager ie wimps!?

I think you will find quite a few of us over here would disagree.

What me might agree on however that such a statement shows that all yeagers are pratts! ( with the exeption of Chuck of course! )

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2005, 05:11:42 AM »
Bet all those British soldiers, sailors and airmen over in Iraq would really appreciate being called wimps.

In fact..... i would pay to see you go up to a Royal Marine Commando and call them a wimp.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2005, 06:29:21 AM »
Heh Finnish wimps at Golan heights received grenade fire from Israel while US was using its veto in SC and delivering more ammo to Israelis to shoot Bluebarets.

F...ing *******; Why didn't you bomb UN positions yourself ?

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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2005, 08:16:21 AM »
Instead of going after Yeager, or correcting the spelling of the authors name, or ignoring the article because it's 2 months old, why don't you guys address the heart of the article?

Is Europe soft of Terror?

That's the question that needs to be asked.

Though I respect individual Europeans and think each country has wonderful attributes and deficits, including the US, I am of the opinion that, yes, European governments appear soft on Terrorists.

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2005, 08:26:27 AM »
*Some*, not all, European governments appear soft on terrorism and/or Islamo-fascism.  It could be that Theo Van Gogh's murder has become a sort of wake up call tho.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2005, 08:39:37 AM »
Rasker... URL to that article?

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2005, 08:46:46 AM »
Here's one of several urls that shows up when you google the article's title:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16565

The german original appears on or linked to one or more of those url's.
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