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Re: Re: Anyone following the Walmart Unionization in Canada?
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2005, 11:51:02 PM »
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And no, there aren't too many illegal immigrants in Quebec.. they're all in Ontario or BC ;)


And they're Quebeckians. :D

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« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2005, 11:51:03 PM »
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BBS Search this phrase in the O'Club and see who says it everytime Unions come up.

Then come back and tell me who it was that posted it.

"The only thing worse than a Union is.......... no Union."

That's your second test question.


you seem to default to the "search the BBS" argument a lot lately.

Why not just state your views anytime someone asks?

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« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2005, 11:52:31 PM »
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Hey Nuke... ever wonder why the Founders put checks and balances into Government?

Ok... now extend that line of reasoning a bit.


Unions have nothing to do with the constitution.

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« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2005, 11:52:50 PM »
Maybe because by the 300th time I get tired of repeating myself for folks that are memory challenged?

Maybe?
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« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2005, 11:56:42 PM »
Toad, you think everyone remembers your stances on everything? I certainly do not.

At least have the nads to state your current views.

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« Reply #95 on: February 10, 2005, 11:57:36 PM »
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Unions are the reason unskilled labor gets higher pay than they are worth


Ok, Nuke. Enlighten me.

A man is born and right that second a clock begins to tick down. When it hits zero, he dies. Nobody really knows how much time is on the clock to start with.

This time is the man's life. Literally.

Now, you want a man to give an employer his most valuable asset... time... for some amount of pay.

Tell me, just what is the time of an unskilled man worth? I mean you know the "unskilled" get paid "higher pay than they are worth" if they're in a Union.

So just what are they worth?

What is a man's lifetime worth?

A man gives his employer 33% of his daily lifetime and in return he should get what?
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« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2005, 12:00:05 AM »
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Toad, you think everyone remembers your stances on everything? I certainly do not.

At least have the nads to state your current views.


Grun knows. He's the one that made the comment that drew the response.

I really don't care if you remember or not. You've certainly participated in enough "Union" threads to have seen me post it MULTIPLE times. It's still current; if I had changed my views, I'd post it.

I'm not going to spoon feed you, sorry.
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Re: Re: Anyone following the Walmart Unionization in Canada?
« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2005, 12:01:07 AM »
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There are several other WalMarts in Quebec and BC in the process of becoming unionized... it'll be interesting to see what comes of them. And no, there aren't too many illegal immigrants in Quebec.. they're all in Ontario or BC ;)


Well, my bet is they are as good as gone if the unionization thing gets started.  

Toad, I wish I had your faith in our government... in my view it is owned part and parcel by wealthy people who's interests are very different from "ordinary Americans".  

My view is if the government won't protect its citizens, they need to protect themselves... hence unions.

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« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2005, 12:02:28 AM »
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Ok, Nuke. Enlighten me.

A man is born and right that second a clock begins to tick down. When it hits zero, he dies. Nobody really knows how much time is on the clock to start with.

This time is the man's life. Literally.

Now, you want a man to give an employer his most valuable asset... time... for some amount of pay.

Tell me, just what is the time of an unskilled man worth? I mean you know the "unskilled" get paid "higher pay than they are worth" if they're in a Union.

So just what are they worth?

What is a man's lifetime worth?

A man gives his employer 33% of his daily lifetime and in return he should get what?


Toad, you seem to be a complete socialist.. I'm very surpized.

A man does not HAVE to submit or work for ANYONE against his will in the USA.

An employer offers a job....OFFERS....no one is forced to take that job.

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« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2005, 12:03:11 AM »
Oh, BTW.. give this a quick read and get back to me with your views on it please.

Wal-Mart: No Bargain?
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« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2005, 12:07:20 AM »
hey Toad

I just started a new airline and I'm hiring experienced pilots at minimum wage.

Would you like to apply? How many qualified  pilots do you think I could hire at minimum wage?

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« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2005, 12:08:09 AM »
You could hire a bunch if all the other airlines paid minimum wage too.

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« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2005, 12:08:42 AM »
yeah, and that makes my point...

thanks

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« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2005, 12:11:27 AM »
Lol, no, it doesn't.  

But I wouldn't expect you to see that.

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« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2005, 12:12:57 AM »
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Lol, no, it doesn't.  

But I wouldn't expect you to see that.


you have just been handed your arse, and you don't even realise it.