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Offline FX1

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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2005, 04:35:38 PM »
Not saying take it away Just make it harder our less damage. I am new but most of my squad isnt and they cant stand it.


Our this "system fx1 was ho'ed by 2weeknewb"  That would stop it.

Na that wouldnt work because it would crash the system (:
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2005, 04:36:32 PM »
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you are right.  I went of the original post or atlist this is how I understood it.  In any case, avoiding the HO at the merge is easy.  I could not say the same for a HO thats a result of a second guy jumping in while you are in a turn fight.



Yep, that's the frustrating one to me. I can miss the HO on the merge, but once I'm in low and slow turning, there's nothing more frustrating then the guy going light speed face shooting you as he blows through what up to that point was a perfectly good knife fight.

It's the nature of the game I guess, and it's still up to the person doing the shooting whether he pulls the trigger or not.

I don't think you could or should try and program into the game a way to take the HO out however.  That's a people issue not programing.

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Offline FX1

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2005, 04:37:26 PM »
ACK ACK it was th 38super, spits were way to slow.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2005, 04:45:46 PM »
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More importantly, good pilots won't get nailed by the HO. I still find the merge to be exciting, especially if it's a 1v1 situation and you know that it's going to be a battle. The only difference between merging in AH, and Merging in AW, is that I'm not going to point my face at his face.

Give it a little rudder and a zero G Dive. Get verticle seperation before you cross. Assume they are going to HO every time, and learn how to merge without becoming exposed. That's the only advice I can give on the issue. I used to hate all the HOing, but now I only notice the sound of their guns as they go blazing by.

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Its HO's all together..
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2005, 04:52:00 PM »
I like HO's.

Ive gotten better at them.

I've been praticin on those drone dudes off line and let me tell ya. I'm like 100:0 k/d on em.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2005, 05:08:51 PM »
All I know morpheus is I ran into you for the first time the other night and you are a....


Friggin magician with a plane.

I mean that with all respect.

granted I'm a new guy but I have seen some great flyers since I have started. You are great !
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2005, 05:13:03 PM »
I'm the only player in the game that gets ho'ed. Everyone else is smart enough to get out of the way. I'm the dumbButt who thinks they won't.

Your mistaken.
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2005, 05:56:51 PM »
FX1, as several above have said it's relatively easy to dodge a HO once you know how, then the HO becomes a moot point.   Many people who try to dodge the HO start far too late.  It's best to start manouvering at atleast 2k out. You give them a low % shot, you gain the angle.  Unless a plane is under say 160mph a HO can be avoided.  

I only ever go for the HO/front quarter shot if the other guy can't get his guns on me.  This includes if he is trying to avoid it.  It sounds harsh, but if a guy is going to give me an easy shot with no risk to myself i'll take it.  If it looks like he's gonna attempt to HO me i'll dodge it.
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2005, 06:00:37 PM »
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I like HO's.

Ive gotten better at them.

I've been praticin on those drone dudes off line and let me tell ya. I'm like 100:0 k/d on em.


Man you spend way too much time offline ya dweeb

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2005, 08:20:05 PM »
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I rember very well the no head on code in AW, as a ropa doper in FW, and F4's it me very frustrated me greatly to have a guy supspended totaly still in mid air, and not be able to shoot him because he had his nose point some what towards me.



You werent doing your ropes properly then. Your intended victim should stall just as you get your nose down, for a nice easy shot into the top of his plane :) I roped all the time in my Corsair, never really had the problem you describe ;)

Btw.....you forgot to turn your spell checker back on.  :lol
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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2005, 08:25:03 PM »
A ho in my mined is a 50/50 chance that you our the other person will be shot down our damage. Yes i will take a shot that i know their is no way he can return fire on me. And yes i dont get ho'ed verv much anymore because i start looking for it 2k out i am not that new. I will make a film tonight so everybody knows what i am talking about. I am shure i will be ho'ed
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2005, 08:28:08 PM »
I think maybe if you will scroll up and see the reply from the gentleman posting under the name hitech, and if you know who he is, you just might figure out you are peeing in the wind. :D
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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2005, 08:30:21 PM »
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Do you think HO's were a valid and historical tactic, and would you like to employ them here with reckless abandon  ?


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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2005, 08:31:22 PM »
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You werent doing your ropes properly then. Your intended victim should stall just as you get your nose down, for a nice easy shot into the top of his plane :) I roped all the time in my Corsair, never really had the problem you describe ;)

Btw.....you forgot to turn your spell checker back on.  :lol



I remember watching some of Hitech's old AW films - and yes he knew how to rope .
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2005, 08:34:28 PM »
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FX1, as several above have said it's relatively easy to dodge a HO once you know how, then the HO becomes a moot point.   Many people who try to dodge the HO start far too late.  It's best to start manouvering at atleast 2k out. You give them a low % shot, you gain the angle.  Unless a plane is under say 160mph a HO can be avoided.  

I only ever go for the HO/front quarter shot if the other guy can't get his guns on me.  This includes if he is trying to avoid it.  It sounds harsh, but if a guy is going to give me an easy shot with no risk to myself i'll take it.  If it looks like he's gonna attempt to HO me i'll dodge it.



I agree with what you are saying Thrila , but the only thing that's not a moot point , is that it gets so damn boring dodging HO attempts from jousters - that it is really having a negative effect on gameplay  - imho.

I don't believe the answer in in the code though -  it's the player base that needs to change
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