Author Topic: Tired of it (Read 2846 times)

Ohio43 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:13:04 AM »

Heh, want to make the newbs sweat for a night??? Lets make announce
a LA-7 night where we only use the LA-7 for the evening.
It really surprised me last night. I was up in a Pony doing bomber escort and fell behind the pack. I had a high 38 at my 12 and a co-alt LA-7 at my 3. I dove down to do a nose up merge on the 38, he dove past me and went for the deck (we started at about 19k) I wasnt watching the LA-7 at the time of the merge and was extremely surprised it was running away with the 38 and I never engaged the LA-7 to cause him to run! Dont think they were heavy cause they were no where near any of our bases..we were deap in NME territory

dedalos · « **Reply #31 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:14:44 AM »

Ah, the lala problem. It can run if it wants to. And a lot of people will chace. Text buff looks something like this: "muahahaha LGAY wheeny run monkie no skill dweeb, come back and fight"

And then, oh my god. What is he doing? He is turning around? Oh chit, where are all my friends? I chaced it too far out of my safety bubble.

Text buff looks something like this: "Wellcome to the tower. NO skill dweeb just killed you in a gay plane"

Get it? The lala will fight and kill you if you chace him out of range of other friendlies. The 190s will keep going so that you can continue talking on 200. Thats the problem with them. Besides, perking them will make them run more often.

Kev367th · « **Reply #32 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:46:00 AM »

I think his idea was to perk them to try and reduce usage, after all isn't that the reason planes are perked in the 1st place?

DamnedRen · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:55:29 AM »

If you can fly it (have the points) and you want to....then do it! That's why its there. Perked or not.

Why would you wanna listen to some guy telling you not to fly an LA-7? Maybe cause he's afraid of them? They are a threat? That's his problem. Not yours. Look at the hanger list of planes. Chose what ya want and fly it!

Ya'll really gotta get over this perkie thing.

LOL

Ren

Goth · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2005, 10:32:16 AM »

Truely Ren if you had an inkling of me you would not have suggested I am afraid of the La. If your idea of fun is to fly a La7 and run from fights then you're getting your money's worth. I'll deal like I have the past few years I've been flying AH.

aztec · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2005, 10:45:38 AM »

The perk system is the biggest joke in AH.

BigR · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2005, 10:47:58 AM »

u know, hearing all these complaints about the LA7 are good. It means things are back to normal in the Aces High world.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #37 on:** March 03, 2005, 10:55:54 AM »

Goth,

Same here. I have no fear of fighting in anything while in an LA7 nor do I run. I also have no fear of fighting an LA7 when Im in any other plane.

And if you feel the same way why are you whining about perks? What difference does it make what's perked and what's not? The only folks it effects are those that need training and newbys who don't have the perks. Wait a minute, they may not have the perks cause they need training too! Never mind.

It's a game. If the plane is perked and you got points and wanna fly it then do so. If its not perked and you wanna fly it then do so.
If a guy likes to run thats ok with me. There's alot of enemy planes around to shoot at so some guy that doesn't want to fight and runs away then that's nice. He aint gonna hurt me by showing me his tail.

Sounds to me like yer frustrated cause some dude just didn't wanna fight you on your terms. Get over it.

Ren

straffo · « **Reply #38 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:08:48 AM »

Perk also the D9,Spit V,P51D ...

What ... you won't be able to fly ?

Because you can't kill a LA7 is not a reason good enought to ask for perking a plane.

SELECTOR · « **Reply #39 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:24:43 AM »

is the la7 being an annoy little siht, reason to perk it?

i would perk it 3 points... just enough to stop the endless whining about perking it..

beet1e · « **Reply #40 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:29:25 AM »

One day, Hitech will agree that the LA7 whine "needs to be put on the other side of the fence".

All I can say is that if the LA7 is not to be perked, then the F4U-1C should be unperked. But if the F4U-1C is to remain perked, the LA7 should be perked - and for the same reasons, plus a few others.

Goth · « **Reply #41 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:55:29 AM »

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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Goth,

Same here. I have no fear of fighting in anything while in an LA7 nor do I run. I also have no fear of fighting an LA7 when Im in any other plane.

And if you feel the same way why are you whining about perks? What difference does it make what's perked and what's not? The only folks it effects are those that need training and newbys who don't have the perks. Wait a minute, they may not have the perks cause they need training too! Never mind.

It's a game. If the plane is perked and you got points and wanna fly it then do so. If its not perked and you wanna fly it then do so.
If a guy likes to run thats ok with me. There's alot of enemy planes around to shoot at so some guy that doesn't want to fight and runs away then that's nice. He aint gonna hurt me by showing me his tail.

Sounds to me like yer frustrated cause some dude just didn't wanna fight you on your terms. Get over it.

Ren

I am frustrated...it's not one isolated incident, but the compounding factors of many. If you read my initial post you will see that I just want them to fight instead of running...constantly running.....running running running......it's all I see them do.

Like someone else posted earlier, I've seen my share of La's above 12k. I start to drool. The majority of La7 pilots think it has the same characteristics at 12k that it does at 8k.....

I don't even have a problem with those that use it on the deck to fight. What I object to is the fact that it can nose down 500', gain full speed on the deck, pull a hard nose up reversal and it's still going 380. Unless you're in another La7, you can't turn and stay up with it. These days too many are dependent upon it's ability to retain energy, but instead of using those advantages, all they do is run. GAH!.....thinking about it has me frustrated......where's my nerve pills?

dedalos · « **Reply #42 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:05:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Goth
What I object to is the fact that it can nose down 500', gain full speed on the deck, pull a hard nose up reversal and it's still going 380. Unless you're in another La7, you can't turn and stay up with it. These days too many are dependent upon it's ability to retain energy, but instead of using those advantages, all they do is run. GAH!.....thinking about it has me frustrated......where's my nerve pills?

Reversal and running in the same sentance? What did I miss here? Are you asking the lala to turn with lets say the spitV 600 on its tail? He might as well bail out. instead of using the planes straingth which is, yes, speed and exceleration?

Goth · « **Reply #43 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:20:03 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
Reversal and running in the same sentance? What did I miss here? Are you asking the lala to turn with lets say the spitV 600 on its tail? He might as well bail out. instead of using the planes straingth which is, yes, speed and exceleration?

Getting tired of defending my words....Suffice it to say that last night I dove on a La7, got 400 off his 6. Yes, I don't blame him for high tailing it..I have and would as well. Fact is, he ran....straight towards an nme base. At 2.0 distance from me he revved to go back to friendly airspace. At that time he had ample opportunity to engage as we were alone. Instead, he ran. Maybe he was out of ammo...maybe he was short on gas....I don't know. So, I continued on home to friendly base shaking my head wondering what the point of it all was. Why fly it if you're not going to use it....it was called a fighter for a reason.

I do know that a lot of people flying the La7 are not using any abilities other than its running capabilities. I can see that a lot of people in the game, and perhaps HT too, will not see eye to eye with me on this issue. Maybe I'm just SO far off base with my thinking no one will agree with me about the La7. I do know that's not the case as I am not the only one to have raised this issue.

Kev367th · « **Reply #44 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:56:41 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
One day, Hitech will agree that the LA7 whine "needs to be put on the other side of the fence".

All I can say is that if the LA7 is not to be perked, then the F4U-1C should be unperked. But if the F4U-1C is to remain perked, the LA7 should be perked - and for the same reasons, plus a few others.

Exactly, HT needs to decide exactly why a plane is perked because at the moment it seems to be just random.
Perk the CHog, Spit14, don't perk LA7 etc.
Just seems to be a total clusterflob.

Seem to remeber the Chog was perked to reduce its usage? In which case wouldn't the Lala, Pony and 190D9 fall into this category? Or was that just the excuse to perk it?

I think all most people want is consistency in the perk system, not the current mess.