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Nash · « **Reply #30 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:22:43 PM »

Well I dunno what that is, but what I'm asking is if anyone has actually told ya "If I become a vegetable, leave me the hell alone 'cuz I wanna ride it out."

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:29:00 PM »

Part of the problem with this is, her parents think if she is giving proper care she can come out of it.

She was in therapy and one time I believe and was responding slowly.. (I think, I am going to have to look now).

that why they wont give up on her, they and her brother think she has a chance of living a normal life again.

Nash · « **Reply #32 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:32:59 PM »

Is religion involved in any of this? Like, was she religious? Her parents?

Or is it purely about the chances of her coming out of it?

The reason I ask is... If she was religious (who cares about her parents) and this whole thing went against her faith, then I would find this whole episode/result incredibly wrong.

SuperDud · « **Reply #33 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:35:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Well I dunno what that is, but what I'm asking is if anyone has actually told ya "If I become a vegetable, leave me the hell alone 'cuz I wanna ride it out."

LoL, that's bad, but I couldn't help but laugh! BAD DUD BAD! Questions I have, how long did the guy wait before getting his g/f? And how long did he wait before trying to pull the plug the 1st time? Facts please, not speculation.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:36:17 PM »

I have never heard anything religious being mentioned in the interviews etc.

But I am not an expert on the case.

Tumor · « **Reply #35 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:43:37 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Part of the problem with this is, her parents think if she is giving proper care she can come out of it.

She was in therapy and one time I believe and was responding slowly.. (I think, I am going to have to look now).

that why they wont give up on her, they and her brother think she has a chance of living a normal life again.

I looked into it some awhile back. The information available has been so diluted by agenda it's nearly impossible to figure out exactly what's going on. Some say the husband is in this for the money, other's say all the money he "would" get has already been used up in legal fee's. Court "appointed" experts say there's no chance she'll recover. Some other Doc who's a supposed expert say's she can recover. I did find myself leaning toward believing she was never treated properly.

I just don't get the rush to "let her die", given there is absolutely no way of knowing what her true wishes were and there's someone willing to take on the responsibility of care. It makes no sense. Worse, starvation and dehydration? Give me a freeking break. If you HAVE to get her dead, why not lethal injection? Really? How humane is that?

....maybe some good will come of this. MAYBE we can start starving murderer's and child molesters. I'm ALL for that.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:45:33 PM »

MYTH: Many doctors have said that there is no hope for her.

FACT: Dr. Victor Gambone testified that he visits Terri 3 times a year. His visits last for approximately 10 minutes. He also testified, after viewing the court videotapes at Terri’s recent trial, that he was surprised to see Terri’s level of awareness. This doctor is part of a team hand-picked by her husband, Michael Schiavo, shortly before he filed to have Terri’s feeding removed. Contrary to Schiavo’s team, 14 independent medical professionals (6 of them neurologists) have given either statements or testimony that Terri is NOT in a Persistent Vegetative State. Additionally, there has never been any medical dispute of Terri’s ability to swallow. Even with this compelling evidence, Terri’s husband, Michael Schiavo, has denied any form of therapy for her for over 10 years.

The family page. Interesting stuff.

Nash · « **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:46:23 PM »

Well if it aint about religion, then it's about some people not wanting to let go. A sad sort of denial situation. Selfish even?

I can't help but think that while this was a smallish, tragic episode in a few people's lives, the masses of every stripe and agenda right on up to the freaking Congress grabbed ahold of it and twisted it for their own ends.

Selfish, selfish, selfish, on all fronts.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:48:08 PM »

Tumor
I agree, I just dont see why he insist she die when the family is willing to take her off his hands and let him walk.

You could not starve a dog to death. Not you or the SPCA, but somehow its ok to do it to a human?

Sound like Nazi germany to me.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:49:23 PM »

No it is not about not letting go nash, Read the page I linked.

The family and some docs beleive she can recover maybe not 100% but enough to live a decent life.

Nash · « **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:50:03 PM »

What if your in-laws started meddling in your family?

It's been a long time since she was 18.

Within the bounds of the law, let the man decide what happens with his family.

NUKE · « **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:54:23 PM »

I think this goes beyond the husband being able to decide if she lives or dies. I don't think anyone has a right just let a human being starve to death like they are trying to do.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2005, 09:56:01 PM »

yeah wonderfull, let a guy who may be reponsible for her condition kill her off.

Great plan Nash.

Are you ignoring the fact she MAY NOT BE A VEGTABLE? Try looking into the case just a little bit.

Nash · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2005, 10:01:49 PM »

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"I don't think anyone has a right to just let...."

There is no right to let.... ?

There is no right to let something happen which would otherwise happen without outside intervention?

That's certainly not any law that I know of... but it is borne of decency, and reverence for humanity. Universal law, or something...

I like it... but it does come with strings attached. Are we to say that we, being able to provide for the starving in Africa, must provide for them and not "let" them die?

Nash · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2005, 10:06:03 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
yeah wonderfull, let a guy who may be reponsible for her condition kill her off. Are you ignoring the fact she MAY NOT BE A VEGTABLE?

Too UFO for me.