Author Topic: F8f (Read 4648 times)

Pongo · « **Reply #90 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:09:05 PM »

There is a weird resistance to the best US Iron..even amongst many americans. I really dont get it.

Grits · « **Reply #91 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:23:15 PM »

I'm not resistant to the plane from a gameplay standpoint, it wont make much difference because it will be perked and wont be any worse than the others. The problem is, it is redundant in the respect that it doesnt fill a "hole" in the existing set, (IE F4U-4, Temp, Spit 14).

I dont want HT wasting their already stretched resources for yet another uber-perk plane when there are 20-30 other more needed planes to fill gaps in the planeset now.

Pongo · « **Reply #92 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:35:45 PM »

20-30 from what stand point?
For them to spend time on the Val is not a waste but to spend time on the Tempest was? I think the use of the two in the MA shows otherwise. The perk system gives players something to build towards and why not include some great American perk planes?
The Hog C? Thats it?
If only for historical reasons we must unleash the secret weapons of the pentagon!

Magoo · « **Reply #93 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:38:51 PM »

There is also a wierd resentment of the La7 ..

But like you said Pongo, it'll be sufficiently perked if added, however unlikely, so it couldn't replace the La7 as the arena's most hated plane. My earlier point was that there will always be a plane that dominates in dweebdom, even if the La7 was perked. Did I read you wrong on your hate for the La7?

Hey, I'll fly the bird if HTC adds it to the game, but I'll bet dollars to dougnuts that we ain't gonna see no parts of no F8F in Aces High. Then again, I would have said the same thing about the Me163 - but of course the Me163 did see action.

Magoo

Grits · « **Reply #94 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:57:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
20-30 from what stand point?

A6M3
D4Y
Ki44
Ki45
G4M
Ki100
J2M
I-16
Yak1
Yak7
Yak9M/D
Tu-2
Pe2
Mig 3
Lagg 3
SM.79
P-39D/P-400
B-25C/J

Thats just off the top of my head, there are many more. Any one of those planes is needed more than the F8F. Like I said, I dont have any objection to the F8F from a gameplay standpoint, just that should be a low priority.

VWE · « **Reply #95 on:** March 24, 2005, 04:00:21 PM »

You always leave off the He-111... wouldn't you rather have a buff you can catch AND shoot down in the CT durring BoB?

Grits · « **Reply #96 on:** March 24, 2005, 04:12:50 PM »

Doh! I do always forget it dont I?

Yes, add the He111 to that list too, and probably a 109 in between the G-10 and G-6, I think its the G-14?

Magoo · « **Reply #97 on:** March 24, 2005, 04:15:42 PM »

I dunno Grits, I think your pushing it with another 109...

Magoo

Pongo · « **Reply #98 on:** March 24, 2005, 04:35:49 PM »

A6M3 -wrong
D4Y - wrong
Ki44 - right
Ki45 - wrong
G4M - wrong
Ki100 - wrong
J2M - right
I-16 - right
Yak1 - wrong
Yak7 - wrong
Yak9M/D -wrong
Tu-2 - right
Pe2 - wrong
Mig 3 -wrong
Lagg 3 - wrong
SM.79 -wrong
P-39D/P-400 -right
B-25C/J -right

Sure it would be cool to have AH be a catalog of ww2 combat aircraft and be able to flesh out any scenario with realistic planes.
Thats not what it is though. Its a game about WW2 aircraft. People get to pick what planes they will fly and the perk system lets them earn access to rare and very capable planes.

To say some historically relevent and active aircraft is more important than one that will be very active and sought after in the GAME is just silly. If HT sets out to build every 1942 aircraft that served with the Brits, Italians, Japanese, Russians and Swedes we will never see another worthwhile plane added to the MA again. Ya there are lots of posters here who are anti MA..but guess what, AH is about the MA, thats how HT gets payed.
I think there is not a great chance to get the F8F into AH, But I think its silly that thats the case, as it is with the P47N, Pony H and B29, planes that would see routine use in the MA.

Grits · « **Reply #99 on:** March 24, 2005, 05:06:36 PM »

I'm not anti-MA, I just dont think that the MA needs any new planes. What will the F8F add that other perk planes dont give already? How many perk planes are "very active" other than the C hog (I'm not counting the 163 HQ defence plane)? What will the P-47N, P-51H, add other than more seldom used perk rides (though like the F8F, I'd like to see them eventually too)?

I think you and I basically agree, just not on the planes, just not the order they should be added to the game.

Grits · « **Reply #100 on:** March 24, 2005, 05:10:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Magoo
I dunno Grits, I think your pushing it with another 109...

Magoo

I did not know this, but some that know more about the 109 series pointed out that we have quite a large gap time and performance wise between the G-6 ('43) and the G-10 (which is really a K-4 I think they said which was late '44-early '45) and that we need a plane in between them. I am not positive, but I think it was the G-14.

lazs2 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 25, 2005, 07:43:49 AM »

well... I have allmost 16,000 perk points and not one of the current perk rides tempts me except for the occasional "slaughter the sky accountants" run in a Tempest.

F8 would be a fun perk ride... a fun perk ride? what a new concept..

as for the list of 20 planes that we "need".... sheesh... they would be about the worst waste of time I can think of... you would see more P40 b's in the arena than them hanger queens.

lazs

Grits · « **Reply #102 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:06:00 AM »

There is more to AH than just the MA.

lazs2 · « **Reply #103 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:17:28 AM »

maybe... but not really... the vast majority live in the MA all the time.

lazs

Pongo · « **Reply #104 on:** March 25, 2005, 10:55:04 AM »

It is kind of funny to make a list of 6000 developement hours worth of hanger queens and say they are more important then 200 hours worth of bearcat building that would really be an incentive to the average paying customer.

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