Will ToD work or will it be another CT

[Clifra Jones]

The F8F discussion has lead me to ask this question. Many posters made the valid point that no matter how historically significant, adding early/mid war planes is a waste of time because a large number of players will not fly them.  Therefor I ask the question: Are these Uber plane "dweeb" (yes I do fly the Dora on occasion) going to fly Zekes at Midway? P400s and P40s at Port Moresby? P39's on the Eastern front? How many will fly for Japan in those late war butt woopings like the Battle of the Phillipine Sea?

For me, I'd fly for the Empire of the Rising Sun for the whole war even knowing we are going to get killed in the end. Question is how many others will feel the same way???

[SELECTOR]

i think if TOD is presented correctly (not the same way CT is, without goals) a real set of goals and historicaly matched planes..then i say it has a good chance of working..
if on the other hand its gonna be like current CT, an MA with limited plane set.. then it will crash and burn...
i think the trick will be getting the pace of the action right...if you have tried out TARGETWARES game rabul then you will know that this is a mission based game..unfortunatly this game i feel dosn't work because the pace isn't quite right..some players who come in for a quick 30min 1 hour burn out wouldn't get their kicks..where as players in it for the long haul woulldn't want after a 45 min flight to be told the scenareo will be changing in 5 mins..

as far as planes go i like flying brit planes so that means spits mossies and typhoons.. but i would take a p40 on a mission if i knew there wouldn't be an la7 or g10 at the destination..

roll on TOD it will either be a new era in AH or it will crash and burn like CT..

[Howitzer]

I don't know... I think I need to read a write-up of TOD before I can give you an honest opinion.  I've read some things on this board that lead me to certain assumptions as to what it is going to be, but I've heard nothing definitive.  

If they keep things in check, it shouldn't be so bad.  By that, I mean if you have a6ms against p40s and even out the navy planes well, there shouldn't be a problem.  I suppose I don't understand how the years will work out.  In other words, say you have the european front: US vs. LW.   What models of 38s, 51s, 47s, 109s, 190s...etc will be available?  All of them?  Or is this just a number of scenarios all playing out at different times?  How do the 262s work into it?

I just have too many unanswered questions in order to give a good opinion.  I hope it works out as well as they hope it will.

[GreenCloud]

from what i read its going to be kik ***



AI msiions..mixed with real life pilots..


Say..U ..30 or so P38 pilots are going to escort a 28 box group of lancasters to Wilhmshaven to bob the uboat pens..


Teh germans send up..a mix of 109s and 110 s to kill the buffs..


sounds good to me


I think TOD will be badddazz..but sound slike a bch to me coading...

I mean setting up so many pre planned misions of mixed AI and real pilots..

I look forward to it..



1 big thing is..WE BETTR NOT HAVE TO GRAB FOR 40 min to get a msiion going..

We sure in the hell bettr have Air starts for Hi alt misssions..
Nothing crappier for me is grabbing to 25k in the Scenarios


I hate wasting virtual time...

Airstart both groups..Axis at 20k..allies at 20k...or whatever prescribed alt..


Of course you woudl give atleast a 25 miel seperation before airstarts..ATleast give the pilots som credit for skill in keeping there formations together

[humble]

TOD is up and working......

The turnout in SEA is always pretty good...usually 150+ when I fly it on Fridays...

Obviously the format will be different but the idea is the same. The real question will be proportionate usage...it takes time to stage and launch a mission based system....so you need an hour+ to play...no "quickies"....

Also you have less flexibility....last time I was up in TOD I was in a 26 (got 2 hangers and something BTW...)....now I wasnt joing when I said lets go down and strafe the field (and any landing cripples:aok )...of course we RTB'd as per mission brief...

All in all I think TOD will be less than the "hardcore" guys think and much much more than the CT...which basically devolved to a bunch of lamers....

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by humble
All in all I think TOD will be less than the "hardcore" guys think and much much more than the CT...which basically devolved to a bunch of lamers....

Appreciate that thought, Humble.

- oldman

[storch]

Originally posted by humble

All in all I think TOD will be less than the "hardcore" guys think and much much more than the CT...which basically devolved to a bunch of lamers....

wow!!! what does that make you then mr. not so humble?  it seems like every time you step into the CT your head is served up immediately and repeatedly.

[plank]

I've always known I'm a lamer I just don't see why people have to continually point it out. It's not like I go around calling the MA a potatohouse, which it is.

[SunKing]

I think it will be all the rage until all the missions become stale and repeat then it's back to MA and the 5 others go back to the CT.

[humble]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Appreciate that thought, Humble.

- oldman

Hehe....

Obviously it painted an awful broad stroke and tarred a few to many.....you have my sincere appologies in that regard....

However, there is a reason the CT has devolved and the reason (as far as I'm concerned) is the overall caliber (or lack there of) of its core player group....a few of whom posted after you. This is coming from someone who spent alot of time there for 2+ years.

[killnu]

whats the CT?

[humble]

Originally posted by storch
wow!!! what does that make you then mr. not so humble?  it seems like every time you step into the CT your head is served up immediately and repeatedly.

Gee last couple times I was in the CT I think it was 1 on 10 or 12...which is just how you guys seem to like it. And thats not just from me...it was brought up repeatedly again and again till folks stopped bothering...which is why almost no one flys in the CT....

sorry if you dont like hearing the truth...the CT is dead because you and guys like you beat it to death.

BTW I'm easy to find anytime you want to see if you can find my head...or any other part of me:)

[storch]

Originally posted by humble
Gee last couple times I was in the CT I think it was 1 on 10 or 12...which is just how you guys seem to like it. And thats not just from me...it was brought up repeatedly again and again till folks stopped bothering...which is why almost no one flys in the CT....

sorry if you dont like hearing the truth...the CT is dead because you and guys like you beat it to death.

BTW I'm easy to find anytime you want to see if you can find my head...or any other part of me:)

generally it's the other way around there tough guy.  I fly axis and we are usually out numbered.

on a side note if you don't like the arena and never play in it why are you always posting these bizarre digs at the people who choose to play in that arena in this venue?  

with regard to the "truth" the truth is that what you post is your opinion.  we all know about opinions don't we?

[tactic]

Killnu.......CT= Combat theater    its below the MA on the clipboard

[plank]

I'm forever flying against my own squad to even things out every night I'm there. So I'm not sure where you get the idea that we do the opposite. I'd love to fly with my squad but I believe balance is more important.

It's funny how everybody not in the CT seems to have the most opnions about it. Those who actually frequent the arena seem to be having a good time. Until, of course, we hear the obligatory 'ct is dead' thread on the boards and it gets us worked up, like I am now.

If there was no CT, I wouldn't even bother playing this game. I see no need to play with 600+ other people when it boils down to a gigantic acrade game set in some alternate history where every plane from WWII are all mashed together in a brothel-like environment.

I wish I had your composure in these matters Oldman, you've got the coolest head in the business. Posts like these just get me pissed off.