Author Topic: Mexican Military on Standby in Response to Minutemen (Read 6475 times)

bustr · « **Reply #255 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:40:23 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
The only solution is to weed them out as they are found and also to punish anyone who hires them.

It would not be hard to find most of them and deport them. It doesn't have to be a sealed border to get rid of them and stop them, although I think we need to beef up security at the borders.

The bottom line is that if they are not here legally, they should be deported as soon as they are caught. If they re-enter and get caught again, they should be locked up.

Dump them in the far south of Mexico. Very few will be back. The US had to stop flying them to southern Mexico because of that fact. Many just disappeared, or, over taxed resources of the local villages and were driven away, or, were killed by the local criminals\drug cartel\bandits, or returned home and did not try again. President Fox put pressure on the US about it because it worked too well. Mexico's economy needs the billions the illegals send home.

One paper from a conservitive research Instituite suggested that if we clompletely close the Mexican border, Mexico will have an economic slump that will cause sever internal upheaval and then an economic collapse. The billions being sent home fills the gap of Mexico having only the Rich and the Poor with the poor vastly disproportionate in the demographic. You see the same demographic stratification in most countries that practice some form of warlordism, criminal cartelism, or Dictatorism.

bustr · « **Reply #256 on:** April 06, 2005, 07:05:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
Well bustr, you showed those people who think illegals have no effect on our Health care industry that they are wrong. To bad you wasted your time since your posts will most likely be ignored.

10 years ago I would agree. Now with blogs and the preponderance of americans like us turning to the internet to find out the truth, just keep posting on BB's. It's one more hit on a search, or someone saying to a freind that hey I remember reading something on that topic. What you and I write here is not buried from the light of day because some Liberal Editor doesnt agree with us, or because some PC pro illegal immigration slammer tries to quiet us by crying bigot or racist.

In almost all states that have populations of illegals, the tax recovery rate from illegals vs social services utilised by illegals is about 1 to 4-12 in terms of billions of dollars. That is the largest scale of mass theft and fraud in the history of the US. I will not support criminals or stay quiet about being robbed and defrauded. God Bless the Minutemen!

culero · « **Reply #257 on:** April 06, 2005, 08:53:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
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I have also seen where an American citizen hires illegal Mexicans for his entire construction crew. Instead of paying an American 15 - 20/hour he pays Mexicans 5 - 10/hour increasing his own profits.

Yet, its still not clear to you who's the central troublemaker in this tale, and who represents the easiest opportunity for us to work on in order to elminate the problem?

Sheesh, man, get a clue rake.

culero

culero · « **Reply #258 on:** April 06, 2005, 08:54:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
Well bustr, you showed those people who think illegals have no effect on our Health care industry that they are wrong. To bad you wasted your time since your posts will most likely be ignored.

His wasted bandwidth is ignored because he's illustrating facts we all agree about.

Its the most effective way to solve the problem that's at issue here.

Oh, and what size sheet Nuke wears

culero (couldn't resist)

NUKE · « **Reply #259 on:** April 06, 2005, 08:57:23 PM »

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Originally posted by culero

Oh, and what size sheet Nuke wears

culero (couldn't resist)

I want the laws of the US enforced and all illegals deported. What do you mean by your comment?

culero · « **Reply #260 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:00:12 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I want the laws of the US enforced and all illegals deported. What do you mean by your comment?

Yer gonna get abrasion rash unless you un-wad those panties.

culero (always glad to help)

NUKE · « **Reply #261 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:05:32 PM »

you think it's okay to label me as a racist? You think it's fine that you imply that I'm in the KKK???

You and AKAK are the bigots. I'm not going to put up with this chit.

culero · « **Reply #262 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:07:14 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
you think it's okay to label me as a racist? You think it's fine that you imply that I'm in the KKK???

You and AKAK are the bigots. I'm not going to put up with this chit.

No, actually I think you're a member of the Richard Simmons clique

culero (not that there's anything wrong with that)

NUKE · « **Reply #263 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:16:06 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
Yet, its still not clear to you who's the central troublemaker in this tale, and who represents the easiest opportunity for us to work on in order to elminate the problem?

Sheesh, man, get a clue rake.

culero

The central trouble makers are the illegal aliens. The easiest and cheapest thing to do would be to deport every last one that we find. We need to weed them out as they are found...every day as they go about their daily lives as illegals.

Also, we need to cut them off from any US taxpayer funds and services. That would be easy and also save money.

A secondary measure would be to punish the people who employ them.

culero · « **Reply #264 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:26:06 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
The central trouble makers are the illegal aliens. The easiest and cheapest thing to do would be to deport every last one that we find. We need to weed them out as they are found...every day as they go about their daily lives as illegals.

The INS spends how much money already, trying to accomplish that exact mission now for how many years?

How do you propose to manage a successful business if you have no more fiscal sense than that?

Hint: the employers are much less numerous, and more cost effective to focus on because one employer attracts many illegal immigrants (think "bang for buck" here, instead of "I hate little brown people").

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Originally posted by NUKE

Also, we need to cut them off from any US taxpayer funds and services. That would be easy and also save money.
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It would be MUCH easier if there were MUCH fewer of them to begin with. Of course, the easiest way to accomplish that wouldn't please you so much, would it?

culero (this is too easy)

NUKE · « **Reply #265 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:32:02 PM »

Just cut them off from every government service and then weed them out . That's the way to deal with them.

If they can't cash a check, get a license, get a job, go to school, get medical care, buy a house...etc, then they are screwed and easily identified.

Once any one of those criminals gets caught, they should be deported. As it is now, normal law enforcement will not deport them or even arrest them for being illegal.

NUKE · « **Reply #266 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:38:42 PM »

If I , as an American citizen were to get a job, paid in cash, and did not pay taxes, would you consider me a criminal? If I were caught doing this, I would be in jail....not like illegals who are just poor victims. They are just trying to make an illegal living afterall.

Screw all illegals and put them in jail if they won't legally imigrate or stay in their own country.

Elfie · « **Reply #267 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:41:56 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Eflie, better be careful.....with that kind of talk, you might be called a bigot.

I dont care

Elfie · « **Reply #268 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:45:13 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
Yet, its still not clear to you who's the central troublemaker in this tale, and who represents the easiest opportunity for us to work on in order to elminate the problem?

Sheesh, man, get a clue rake.

culero

The problem is two-fold. If there were no employers willing to hire them there would be no illegals. If there were no illegals there would be no employers to hire them....understand that? You make it sound as if its ENTIRELY the fault of American employers, it isnt.

ASTAC · « **Reply #269 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:47:29 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
If I , as an American citizen were to get a job, paid in cash, and did not pay taxes, would you consider me a criminal? If I were caught doing this, I would be in jail....not like illegals who are just poor victims. They are just trying to make an illegal living afterall.

Screw all illegals and put them in jail if they won't legally imigrate or stay in their own country.

I took a cash only "paid under the table job" made great money...However it was my choice to file it as income or not...being my choice to try to skirt the govt or not....had I been caught I would have to pay the consequences..I won't tell you what I chose....If an employer gets caught they should too...