Originally posted by NUKE
What bigotry? I don't want to give away one cent to any illegal and I want them all removed from the country. They do not deserve to get any public benifits from the US. Screw them all.
They do not deserve: a drivers license, to go to school.....nothing.
Basically they need to stop breaking the law and be deported out of the country. If they get caught here again, it should be tent city for a year.
I suppose you think that people who want our laws respected are bigots.
Your bigotry, like that of many others, is self-evident. The proof is right here in this discussion.
You are talking about a problem we all agree is a problem (illegal immigration) but you focus solely upon the immigrants themselves and harshly punitive measures against solely them as the proposed solution.
In doing so, and although its been pointed out repeatedly in the discussion (more than once in reply to your posts) you deliberately ignore the fact that the single most important causal factor in this problem is that it is common practice here
on the part of US citizens to actively seek out and hire illegal illimgrants for employment.
These
US citizens provide the reason illegal immigrants come here (to take these illegally provided jobs). These
US citizens cause the wages they pay for these illegally provided jobs to be kept off the books for tax purposes, denying our community its fair share of tax revenue (which the illegals would certainly be glad to pay in order to have their jobs legally, I assure you). These
US citizens do so in order that they may have a lower cost to themselves, and often deny other
US citizens the opportunity to obtain the jobs they provide to illegal immigrants because they don't want to have to pay at least legal US minimum wage and tax share (remember, employers must contribute half of an employee's FICA and pay bookeeping costs).
We'll ignore the fact, since you obviously do not give a damn, that individuals who wish nothing more than the opportunity to earn an honest wage are being ruthlessly exploited by these
US citizens. I direct your attention to the fact that rather than include enforcement of current law and even perhaps enhancements of the law designed to compel compliance on the part of employers, you seem to want to blame these wage-earners for the whole problem and seem to want to punish them only. Yet, you ignore what's much more aggregious on the part of
US citizens - violation of the laws governing our tax system and our immigration system in order to have lower costs for services, and exploitation of other human beings for the same purpose.
You want to step up efforts to crack down on mostly impoverished laborers who are for the most part only seeking to earn wages in order to feed their families yet continue to ignore the fat cats here who are enriching themselves while providing
THE REASON those illegal immigrants come here.
If you (and everyone else who expresses similar views, please understand I'm not singling you out personally by replying to your post) don't think you are bigoted, you need to do some self-examination, IMO.
This isn't by way of insult, BTW. I myself have been squarely where you are now, when I was much younger (I was raised to be a bigot). I've been able to rise above that. I'm trying to give you (and others) a hand up by sharing what I feel is a better understanding of
ALL the factors involved, and
ALL the people involved. Keep in mind when considering that the fact I've grown up living a ten-minute drive from the border and that I both speak both languages involved and interact with both classes of people I'm discussing every day of my life. I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that I may have a greater fund of experience to draw upon regarding this issue than most here. I'm honestly just trying to promote better understanding, not bust chops.
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