Originally posted by lazs2
There are like 10 million concealled carry holders and they have been around for many years... there is no real case of a shooting by one that has been sucessfully prosecuted so far as I know.
In August of 2000, the Violence Policy Center released License to Kill III, a report that details the number of concealed weapons licensees in Texas who have been arrested for crimes after getting a concealed weapons permit. Using data from the Texas Department of Public Safety, the Violence Policy Center found that Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for a total of 3,370 crimes between January 1, 1996 and April 30, 2000, including very serious violent offenses like murder, rape, sexual assault, and weapons-related crimes. An analysis of the Texas data also reveals that, between 1996 to 1999, Texas CCW permit holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate that was 66% higher than that of the general population of Texas.
On July 6, 2001, an unnamed man fatally shot 17-year-old Jacob W. Walton during a road rage altercation in Spokane, WA. Walton was a passenger in a car that got into an altercation with the shooter. According to police, the shooter had a concealed-weapons permit
"Road rage shooter had gun permit," Associated Press report appearing in the Post-Intelligencer, July 10, 2001
During the summer of 2000, Austin, TX, taxi driver Wayne Franklin Lambert Jr. shot and killed two unarmed men, both high-tech professionals, who had been his passengers. According to police, Lambert, a gun enthusiast with a Texas concealed-handgun license shot one of the men three times in the back. The other victim gave a deathbed statement, saying that the taxi driver became angry over something his friend had said and challenged him to a fight. Other cab drivers gave police sworn statements saying Lambert was "very short-tempered" and "always angry at just about everything." One cab driver claimed Lambert once said, "I would shoot someone over a dollar." According to state records, Lambert was charged with assault after beating, choking and threatening to kill another taxi driver in August 1994. Lambert was charged with capital murder, representing the second multiple murder case brought against a Texas concealed-gun licensee in the last three years
On June 11, 2000, Jamie Cokes, 26, of Pittsburgh, PA, shot and killed 30-year-old Leon Blair. In 1998, Cokes had been shot in the face by a robber while driving his cab. He later told a local paper that he had a permit to carry a gun and would shoot the man who had shot him. Cokes and Blair knew each other, and, according to the victim's brother, Cokes "was always talking about shooting people." Cokes later admitted to police that Blair was not the man who shot him in 1998
On May 30, 2000, a fistfight turned into a gun battle outside the home of Dale Cramm, 44, of Everett, WA, resulting in the death of two teens. Cramm's son was later charged in the deaths, and Cramm himself was charged with witness tampering, tampering with physical evidence, and three drug-related felonies. Police also confiscated an arsenal of weapons, including five shotguns, three SKS assault rifles, 3 other rifles, bayonets and high-capacity magazines. Within days after the weapons were confiscated, Cramm, who was out on bail, allegedly went to a local gun show and purchased more firearms. According to police, Cramm used his CCW permit as identification to purchase guns at the gun show
On January 27, 2000, Louis Mockewich, 34, of Philadelphia, PA, shot and killed a neighbor who was shoveling snow behind his rowhouse. The two neighbors had been arguing over where the victim was placing the snow, and Mockewich's solution was to pull out his gun, for which he had a CCW permit, and kill the 31-year-old man. The victim, too had a CCW permit
On December 14, 1999, Adam Sousa, 25 of Naples, FL, pulled a .357 from a holster before leaving the dog track, and shot two men. Sousa, said to have been angry over an argument at the poker table, was asked to leave the game. As he headed toward the door, Sousa pulled the gun and pointed it, threatening to kill the track parking attendant. Sousa then shot two others. Sousa, a CCW permit holder, was intoxicated at the time of the shooting
There are a lot...These are just the ones I found before I got tired of looking. Plenty of killings by CCW holders. Although I gotta say I also saw a lot of "incidents" of CCW holders where the gun went off accidently and shot someone. I would like to see a comparison of the number of justified shootings by CCW holders versus unjustified/accidental.
