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storch · « **on:** April 06, 2005, 04:36:15 PM »

Governor Bush will sign a new law allowing concealed permit holders to shoot assailants if the victim feels threatened.

This is why I love my Florida so much.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-45forcewithforce,0,2447178.story

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:39:31 PM »

I'm glad we have Florida. It gives the rest of the country something to laugh about.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:43:36 PM »

"If I'm attacked I shouldn't have a duty to retreat. That's a good way to get shot in the back."

Qoute from the sponsor of the bill....

Sometimes I really wonder if some Republican think they live in a sterotyipcal western where people regulary shoot each other on the streets. Heck I was surpised the article used the word "bar" instead of "saloon."

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:46:41 PM »

Great,!

Now I can move to florida and shoot storch dead...he skurrrin' me

wombatt · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:48:41 PM »

Governor says he will sign 'meet force with force' bill

Associated Press
Posted April 5 2005, 1:18 PM EDT

TALLAHASSEE -- Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday he intends to sign a bill that would allow people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game -- or just about anywhere -- to ``meet force with force'' to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted.

LOL best to read the fine print on this one.

allow people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game -- or just about anywhere -- to ``meet force with force''

The key word being force on force.
In other words If a guy punches you you may punch him back.

You cant just shoot him LOL.

Also if anyone is packing heat in a bar LOL well you in deep watermelon anyways.

This law although it might sound good does look to be covered in Grey areas.
It leaves to much up to the individual to make up his mind.

Picture this two dudes get in a fight and one is unarmed but he is kicking the other dudes butt.
Now the other dude gets tired of having his butt kicked so he shoots the dude.
is he justified?

Now same scenario the first dude pulls out a knife !
Well now i believe dude two has the right to shoot him.

It looks good on paper but lets see how it works in real life.
Before we all start trying to be Wyatt Earp.

john9001 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:01:03 PM »

nice thing about the USA is you don't have to live there, you don't have to live in florida either, if you feel threatened by lawabiding people having guns you can move to kaliforina or canada or the UK.

wombatt · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:07:08 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
nice thing about the USA is you don't have to live there, you don't have to live in florida either, if you feel threatened by lawabiding people having guns you can move to kaliforina or canada or the UK.

LOL another kneejerk reaction.

Son I live in Texas and I have a cwp so I am not against it at all
I am just saying that if you leave too much up to the individual
then he might go into system over load and there is always the chance of mi use.

john9001 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:23:02 PM »

well "son" i live in florida and if you feel afraid stay in texas "son"

ASTAC · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:22:09 PM »

whats so horrible about that? That when the cops can't help you..you now can help yourself? People that bother to get PERMITS are not the type to be going around shooting people randomly...Hell if they had a permit in the first place..they probrably were going to use it for self defense anyway...now it's just legal.

Skydancer · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:26:38 PM »

Where's Gun totin Lazs on this one!?

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:13:55 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ

"If I'm attacked I shouldn't have a duty to retreat. That's a good way to get shot in the back."

Qoute from the sponsor of the bill....

Sometimes I really wonder if some Republican think they live in a sterotyipcal western where people regulary shoot each other on the streets. Heck I was surpised the article used the word "bar" instead of "saloon."

I take it you've never been robbed by crack fiends with guns have you? You'd feel a bit different I'm thinking, if you'd had two wackos with guns talking about whether or not to shoot you anyway after you hand over your wallet. Just for the fun of it.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2005, 10:12:51 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Skydancer
Where's Gun totin Lazs on this one!?

Don`t be stalkin Lazs Zulu. He is a straight guy. Besides you allready have a boy friend. You even posted a picture of him.

wombatt · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2005, 11:31:30 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by john9001
well "son" i live in florida and if you feel afraid stay in texas "son"

From your posts I doubt that mom and dad will let you have a gun LOL.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2005, 12:34:48 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by wombatt
Governor says he will sign 'meet force with force' bill

Associated Press
Posted April 5 2005, 1:18 PM EDT

TALLAHASSEE -- Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday he intends to sign a bill that would allow people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game -- or just about anywhere -- to ``meet force with force'' to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted.

LOL best to read the fine print on this one.

allow people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game -- or just about anywhere -- to ``meet force with force''

The key word being force on force.
In other words If a guy punches you you may punch him back.

You cant just shoot him LOL.

Also if anyone is packing heat in a bar LOL well you in deep watermelon anyways.

This law although it might sound good does look to be covered in Grey areas.
It leaves to much up to the individual to make up his mind.

Picture this two dudes get in a fight and one is unarmed but he is kicking the other dudes butt.
Now the other dude gets tired of having his butt kicked so he shoots the dude.
is he justified?

Now same scenario the first dude pulls out a knife !
Well now i believe dude two has the right to shoot him.

It looks good on paper but lets see how it works in real life.
Before we all start trying to be Wyatt Earp.

Good. I'm a Designated Driver, amongst friends when hanging out. I am looking to get my CCW here in Michigan this year. I'm usually sucking down Sprites for free at bars, because of the DD thing. Funny thing is, 99% of the LAW ABIDING citizens won't be a problem. You're always gonna have the 1% who are the prettythang*oles, that is life.

Karaya

lazs2 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2005, 09:00:39 AM »

you can actually shoot someone who is beating you with bare fists... it has happened and the concealled carry holder had his jaw broken and was struck multiple times before he finaly ended the beating with a well placed shot to the attacker.

The bill is nothing except the affirmation of the right to defend yourself with the best tools available from unprovolked attack. The kind of attack that CC people would shoot ove in any case.. Now they won't get into the whole liberal lawyer zoo over it is all.

Some areas and some people in the states are very dangerous... much like rabid dogs. It is prudent to protect against them in a personal way.

lazs