Author Topic: about to buy new system? (Read 1179 times)

68DevilM · « **on:** April 17, 2005, 06:34:33 PM »

heres the spec's

let me know if im makeing a good buy or not?

this is my first time puting one together from scratch.

motherboard. GIGABYTE "GA-K8NS PRO" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon64 Processors(1600MHz System Bus)
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 250
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 by chipset, 2x ATA 133 w/ RAID0/1/0+1 JBOD by GigaRAID IT8212 up to 8 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xLPT,2xCOM,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Marvell 8001 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA by chipset, RAID 0/1 JBOD; 2x SATA by Sil3512, RAID 0/1
Onboard 1394: T.I. controller, 3 Ports
Form Factor: ATX

cpu.

case.

plan on useing, my radeon 9800 pro 128mb, and a 80 and 120 gb hardrives, with my sound blaster audio 2zs gamer.
total price at newegg.com $481.47 us

SKJohn · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2005, 08:34:04 PM »

68Devil,
I can't give you advice about your system, but I can give you advice about asking for advice here - DON'T DO IT!
2 weeks ago I was ready to buy me a new system, then I asked about it on here, the same as you did.
Now, after all the advice from Skuzzy (thanks, by the way!) and everybody else, I don't know what to buy!
It seems like everybody has a different idea on what is the fastest, coolest, power saving, cheapest bang for the buck, system there is.
I think I'll just go back to PONG and my ATARI - life was so much simpler back then.......

68DevilM · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:00:40 PM »

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Originally posted by SKJohn
68Devil,
I think I'll just go back to PONG and my ATARI - life was so much simpler back then.......

lol:rofl

thats alrigtht sk, i just wanted to know if all this stuff was compatible with eachother, and i wasnt gonna have any problems.

ohh add 2 corsair 512mb DDR PC-3200 to the mix also:D

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2005, 10:34:11 PM »

Wow, I didnt know they made a 3700+ for the socket 754 board. Cool! That should rock!

Paul · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2005, 06:45:20 AM »

Everything looks compatable to me.

Just check to make sure you have enough power. At or over 300W should be good enough it seems.

Nice comp!

-Paul

PS: is that 2 512 or 2 that add up to 512 RAM?

68DevilM · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:08:51 AM »

rgr that..

yeah the tower comes with a 400watt PS

Ohio43 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2005, 12:00:15 PM »

What made you choose that board? Just curious if it was a money issue. If money is not an issue, I personally would go with a PCI-E video board (SLI preferably) and a better AMD 64 slot (900 series..forgot exact number).
If your not planning on upgrading than Im sure you'd be happy. I also have a friend that has told me on a few occassions that Gigabyte boards arent good quality anymore like they were years ago. Could be wrong..just passing that along.
MSI and ASUS make great boards..check em out

68DevilM · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2005, 12:58:53 PM »

im gonna go with the agp slot because my 9800 pro is only 4 months old, and im not ready to buy a new card yet,

ill check out the asus, and msi boards though...

humble · « **Reply #8 on:** April 18, 2005, 01:33:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Ohio43
What made you choose that board? Just curious if it was a money issue. If money is not an issue, I personally would go with a PCI-E video board (SLI preferably) and a better AMD 64 slot (900 series..forgot exact number).
If your not planning on upgrading than Im sure you'd be happy. I also have a friend that has told me on a few occassions that Gigabyte boards arent good quality anymore like they were years ago. Could be wrong..just passing that along.
MSI and ASUS make great boards..check em out

Gigabyte is excellent, MSI has some great boards but not all. The best up and coming board is DFI. They snagged one of the best designers in the world...the 754 LanParty was his 1st board out and is the best overclocking board in the world. Anything from that one on should be great (older stuff I'd stay away from).

Gigabyte is good "stock" and easily overclockable. MSI is not as good "stock" (as a rule) but might have a bit of topend OC wise. ASUS is best "stock" but sucks to OC....LAN is worst "stock" but is rock solid OC'd and has highest component QC (basically designed to OC).....

So you need to know if your going to OC....if not

ASUS...maybe GB/MSI.....for sure DFI

68DevilM · « **Reply #9 on:** April 18, 2005, 01:42:11 PM »

found this one humble for 108.00

DFI "LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb" NVIDIA nForce3 250GB Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL

Model# LANPARTY UT nF3 250G
Item # N82E16813136147

Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64 processor
Chipset: nForce3 250Gb
RAM: 3x DIMM Supports DDR266/333/400 Max 3GB
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2, 1x COM, 1x LPT, 8x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, 1x 1394, 2x S/PDIF In/Out, Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
SATA/RAID: 2x SATA RAID with NVIDIA RAID 0,1,0+1,JBOD, 2x SATA by Marvell SATA PHY
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850(8-Ch)
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E1111 GbE PHY
Form Factor: ATX

68DevilM · « **Reply #10 on:** April 18, 2005, 01:48:32 PM »

as you can see it closely matches the GIG, except it has 4 slots for ram. and a little more expensive.

so wich one becuase im at the point where i stop researching and start typeing in creditcard #s:rofl

eagl · « **Reply #11 on:** April 18, 2005, 01:51:37 PM »

Sigh...

Get the socket 939. Pay the extra little tiny bit, and just do it. Don't ask why, because if you've somehow rationalized the 754 over the 939 and you're not on food stamps and getting a second mortgage to pay for your upgrade, you're just not thinking straight. Read my lips. Don't get socket 754. Except for a couple of bucks right now, there is no benefit. Everything that works on a socket 754 works on a socket 939 board, except for the cpu. The only difference is that the socket 939 will be the same or faster in every possible measure, and it has many many more potential cpu upgrade possibilities in the future. If you're sticking with AGP as I did, being able to slap a fast new cpu in that sucker in a year or two may be even more important. Socket 754 = dead end, and to add insult to injury it's usually slower too.

If you're crunched on cash, start with a single 512 meg stick of memory and go for a second one later. Any pc3200 (ddr400) stick will work. If you already have DDR memory that you can reuse, just put it in and the mobo will detect the right speed even if it's slower than pc3200, and it'll work just fine. If possible, get an athlon 64 3000 or 3200 "winchester" 90nm cpu as well, because they run cooler. Get the retail cpu and heatsink because the retail A64 heatsinks work just fine even for mild overclocking, so you won't need to spend any more on a different heatsink and fan.

Work the rest of the parts according to your budget, but start out with a decent quality socket 939 motherboard. Unless you're on welfare, in which case buy a nice set of clothes for your next job interview instead.

68DevilM · « **Reply #12 on:** April 18, 2005, 02:02:22 PM »

ugg 939 again!

i can find a agp with a 939 but i was told that 754 would be better for agp slots since everything will go pci-exp in a short time...

thank you for the info on 939's though, it has been in the back of my head, about the 754s being out of date sooner or later, but i justify it in saying to myself, that when its finnaly time to upgrade my video card again, that ill probably end up haveing to go pci-express, and will have to go with a new mobo cpu combo anyways...were talking a couple years down the road though.

SKJohn · « **Reply #13 on:** April 18, 2005, 02:08:48 PM »

68Devil,

I warned you!!!!!!!!!:D

68DevilM · « **Reply #14 on:** April 18, 2005, 02:11:20 PM »

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Originally posted by SKJohn
68Devil,

I warned you!!!!!!!!!:D

so true:rofl

i dont mind though, im the one asking for advise.