The CT and how people view it.....

[storch]

guppy, I made a comment to one specific cartoon P38 driver who had happily shot his mouth off about a cartoon squaddy of mine repeatedly in another thread.  it was a response to his own assertations that the P38 was an uber plane.  perhaps he's right. in any event I cartoon nailed him as he was trying to cartoon run away from a cartoon fight after his two cartoon P38yuberfriends got smoked.  apparently he knew who I meant because he whined as was reported by a squaddy.  it was reported that he cried foul and gangyness.  I had remained high and out of the cartoon fight until he attempted to make his cartoon escape.  'twas a nice cherrypick too.  if the cartoon pilot in question recorded it I would like to see the film.  I love animated features.

the second comment was that this was supposed to be dday and not bobII or words to that effect as the ackllieds were typically hanging over the nasty port ack on the cartoon english side.

only two comments.  just so you know I don't read 200 or ch1.  sadly I can't report on who said what to whom regarding this or that.

some of you fellows must have binoculars and are completely aware of all the comings and goings in your neighborhoods.  we need that here.  a sort of CT JG54 crime watch.  good idea you civic minded wonder players.  keep a log too you never can tell when you may need the evidence.

[Redd]

Originally posted by TrueKill
I just dont like spit5s cuz they are the biggest dweeb rides in the game it takes no skill to fly one. Oh no here comes a 109 lemme just turn and then ill try to turn oh I know what I can do turn. spitI, IX, and IVX I can stand. But the V is jsut stupid, and now with the 16 boost it can outturn and out run a 109F. And yes I know first hand cuz the 109F is my fav. plane I'm eather in the F or a dora in the MA and even without gondies unless you have alt to B&Z him your outa luck.

So basically you don't like the Spit V because it outturns the 109F , which is your favourite plane.

Let's exclude planes on that basis - no probs

PAC  - no more nikis and KI84's because they outurn my favourite plane  - the F6-F.  


I'm actually not arguing for it to be in , I just find it amusing that you are so paranoid about a plane that has severe weaknesses against well flown axis plane-sets

[TrueKill]

Originally posted by Redd
So basically you don't like the Spit V because it outturns the 109F , which is your favourite plane.

Let's exclude planes on that basis - no probs

PAC  - no more nikis and KI84's because they outurn my favourite plane  - the F6-F.  


I'm actually not arguing for it to be in , I just find it amusing that you are so paranoid about a plane that has severe weaknesses against well flown axis plane-ets

do I dont like it cuz its a uber dweeb noob ride that I can get kills in with out even trying like grits said its only about 4mph slower the the 9 now in it turns better then the 9.

[Redd]

Originally posted by storch
guppy, I made a comment to one specific cartoon P38 driver who had happily shot his mouth off about a cartoon squaddy of mine repeatedly in another thread.  it was a response to his own assertations that the P38 was an uber plane.  perhaps he's right. in any event I cartoon nailed him as he was trying to cartoon run away from a cartoon fight after his two cartoon P38yuberfriends got smoked.  apparently he knew who I meant because he whined as was reported by a squaddy.  it was reported that he cried foul and gangyness.  I had remained high and out of the cartoon fight until he attempted to make his cartoon escape.  'twas a nice cherrypick too.  if the cartoon pilot in question recorded it I would like to see the film.  I love animated features.

the second comment was that this was supposed to be dday and not bobII or words to that effect as the ackllieds were typically hanging over the nasty port ack on the cartoon english side.

only two comments.  just so you know I don't read 200 or ch1.  sadly I can't report on who said what to whom regarding this or that.

some of you fellows must have binoculars and are completely aware of all the comings and goings in your neighborhoods.  we need that here.  a sort of CT JG54 crime watch.  good idea you civic minded wonder players.  keep a log too you never can tell when you may need the evidence.

I am startingto  need an interpreter  for your posts Storchy

[VWE]

When the Spit5 is included and its near the front feilds 7 out of 10 allies are in it. Yet when only the Spit9 is in less than half fly it... why is that redd?

[Redd]

Originally posted by VWE
Redd, you take any varient of the 109 in the CT up tonight and I'll go grab a Spit5... and I want you to show me how un uber the Spit5 is by whacking me over and over again cause I'll not be able to compete with you.

Actually even better


lets pop in to the DA , and we'll fight every variety of the 109 against SpitV, and every variety of 190 against the Spit V, and see how many the Spit V wins

It would be an interesting exercise.


I am a very ordinary 109 and 190 pilot , but I believe I could win one or two.

[storch]

Originally posted by humble
I'm always suprised at the amount of "spitdweeb" bashing that goes on. No question that in a "dueling" enviornment the spitty has a big edge (especially with the upped boost). It's also the easier plane to fly overall....

But the 109 is more than a match for a spit in the MA or CT IMO. The "bookends" in particular do well. The G10 is still the single best plane in the game if flown to its strengths and the F4 is very cabable of E fighting any spitty and winning. Other then the E which I simply view as dogfood the rest of the matchup is quite good. Personally I hate the 109s with the exception of the G2 since they dictate how the pilot has to fly them vs a Ki-61 or F6 (for example) that can be flown successfully in a much broader range of scenarios....

well except (and this may be my particular problem with my equipment) what happens to me is that as I dive onto a spit and the spit driver executes a chandelle (a climb and turn typically to the left) no matter what my E state (which should be good) as I start to pull the necessary lead on the spit the right wing unexplainably drops at about 225 tas, basically an accellerated stall.  no matter how carefully I imput control it occurs.  now here's the killer not every day and never in the MA.  I don't have the stall limiter enabled but I do use combat trim.

[jamusta]

Comment about the p38 from storch now thats funny.

[VWE]

8 pm central time... can't get there any sooner though I do have Wensdays off so I can make it in at a later time if you prefer. Anyone wants to watch ya'll can join up in God mode...

[Redd]

Originally posted by VWE
When the Spit5 is included and its near the front feilds 7 out of 10 allies are in it. Yet when only the Spit9 is in less than half fly it... why is that redd?

VWE ,

to be perfectly honest , I don't ever remember flying a Spit V in the CT , not saying I haven't , but it was either so long ago, or so rare that I have forgotten  (without checking stats which I can't be bothered)

Against Axis planes I would take the 9 every time - it is a better propostion against the axis planeset

But again , I don't remember flying the 9 much either - they are very rare birds in the CT from what I have seen.

[Redd]

Originally posted by VWE
8 pm central time... can't get there any sooner though I do have Wensdays off so I can make it in at a later time if you prefer. Anyone wants to watch ya'll can join up in God mode...

It will have to be later  (I have a big time difference and that's the middle of the day)

I'll find you in the CT this week , and we'll set it up

[TexMurphy]

I just read the first page of this thread and it PERFECTLY illustrates what Guppy ment.

What I expect from CT is an arena of history interested players but what it is is an arena of arrogant testosteronic arses, I know not everyone but thats the impression you DO get from these and MA boards.

When ever the CT´s problems come up it turns into a pissing contest.

Freekin 5 year olds in a sandbox are more humble.

As long as CT views it self as a "elitist" arena this problem will remain.

I would die for a historical arena with high numbers, Id be there every night.

But if Im to choose to play with "arrogant vets" or "humble noobs" then I would choose the later every night of the week.

Tex.

[VWE]

Tex... in here its just talkin the talk, come to the CT and walk the walk.

[TexMurphy]

So you mean a person who is arrogant arse on forums can be a humble gentleman in game?

[detch01]

Originally posted by storch
well except (and this may be my particular problem with my equipment) what happens to me is that as I dive onto a spit and the spit driver executes a chandelle (a climb and turn typically to the left) no matter what my E state (which should be good) as I start to pull the necessary lead on the spit the right wing unexplainably drops at about 225 tas, basically an accellerated stall.  no matter how carefully I imput control it occurs.  now here's the killer not every day and never in the MA.  I don't have the stall limiter enabled but I do use combat trim.

Control input spikes would be my guess. I've not seen what you're seeing (outside wing stalling before the inside wing in a high speed, high G turn). What I do see when I get ham-fisted is the inside wing dropping on me.

Cheers,
asw