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Offline Eagler

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« on: March 06, 2001, 05:18:00 AM »
Where are the screams for gun control?! The 15 year old used a .22 pistol to kill two students and injure around a dozen more. What additional gun controls would have prevent that??? NONE! ANYONE can get a .22, ANYONE! This story made me sick yesterday as my youngest is also 15. To think of his life snuffed out by some picked on, CONFUSED student with a .22 pistol made my stomach flip.
Then some yahoo adult, I think it was the shooter's mother's boyfriend, goes on national television and say he feels responsible because the boy spoke of doing this in the past and he, the boyfriend, didn't take any action to prevent it. (Lawyers were smiling all the way to the bank on that one).
Anyone wonder why all of these shootings are happening at our Public schools and none at the private schools? What's happened to our society for a 15 year old to take another 15 year old's life??.. For Christ sakes, his worries should be pimples, cars and girls...
Since no one can fix that, I suggest closed campus with one way in and out of each school, bus them in 30 minutes to an hour earlier so they have time to walk through the metal detectors and have their backpacks scanned just as if they were going into a courthouse or an airport terminal. Locker searches & armed police patrolling the school grounds. Sad times we live in ...

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2001, 05:28:00 AM »
i don't want to enter into the debat of "do we have the moral right of having a gun"

but for me (european ppl) i think this 1st amendemant ( i don't remember the number) is a piece of sh*t

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LJK Raubvogel

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2001, 06:14:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by nonoht:
i don't want to enter into the debat of "do we have the moral right of having a gun"

but for me (european ppl) i think this 1st amendemant ( i don't remember the number) is a piece of sh*t


That's all nice and good. But, it might have been a bit tougher for a certain germanic country to conquer yours if your civilians were heavily armed  


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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2001, 06:26:00 AM »
humm  
sure so that's why there are many massacre in your school ???

excuse me, but your vision of cowboy way of life is toejamty... and i don't thing that with some guns, civilian would stop German Pnzr divisions durind invasion of FRANCE...

that's only made more civilian death

PS:  you voted bush  haven't you ?

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2001, 06:28:00 AM »
 
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That's all nice and good. But, it might have been a bit tougher for a certain germanic country to conquer yours if your civilians were heavily armed  


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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2001, 06:29:00 AM »
lol, if even army couldnt stop germans, how could have the civilians..
they probably would had made just for better partisans at most. (..and more dead civilians after nazis decides to revenge)

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2001, 06:40:00 AM »
Don't bother pal; most Americans on this board think it's fine and dandy for a kid to get hold of a gun and shoot his classmates. Any form of gun control would seem to be 'un-American'.

It's about time they woke up and smelt the bull-shit.

Turn your schools into fortresses and destroy any innocence the children have - all because you can't bear to have any form of control regarding your right to bear fire-arms.  

But it's statistically unlikely your kids will be hurt, right? That's ok then.

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2001, 07:00:00 AM »
 
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Don't bother pal; most Americans on this board think it's fine and dandy for a kid to get hold of a gun and shoot his classmates. Any form of gun control would seem to be 'un-American'.
It's about time they woke up and smelt the bull-shit.
Why don't pal you smell yours? No gun controls stopped a maniac killing 16 kiddies 3 years ago. No gun control stopped another piece of toejam brandishing machete at another lot of little kiddies. And guess what? Their teacher who covered them with her body and received horrific injuries got just £10K compensation from your gun controlling liveral loving labour government, great, eh?

Gun don't kill - people do. Regardles of whether they come from America or some other place - it is a person who pulls the trigger.

BTW, no gun control would stop the very same kid from buying a 25kg bag of fertiliser from a local gardening centre and blowing the whole school up to hell and back...

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2001, 07:37:00 AM »
 
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That's all nice and good. But, it might have been a bit tougher for a certain germanic country to conquer yours if your civilians were heavily armed  


I'm suprized that you would say something this stupid considering that you say you are a profesional soldier. But then again, I've seen what US military defines are "profesionnal" first hand.
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2001, 07:40:00 AM »
 
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NONE! ANYONE can get a .22, ANYONE!

You have to be 21 to get even a .22.

 
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Don't bother pal; most Americans on this board think it's fine and dandy for a kid to get hold of a gun and shoot his classmates.

Um.. yeah.. right.  You may have just qualified for idiot of the year with this one.

 
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. Any form of gun control would seem to be 'un-American'

Some believe this, some do not.  Many gun restrictions have been VOTED in in the USA.  Kinda makes you wonder just how American's are prerceived vs how the media portrays them... and just how stupid some people can be when it comes to stereotyping.

 
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But it's statistically unlikely your kids will be hurt, right? That's ok then

So.. its guns and not the individuals?  Are there any countries where guns are even more prevelant than in the US?  The company I work for actually has one site that has a "Check your guns at the front door" policy.  That site is not in the US.  I've not heard of this type of thing happening in that country.  I wonder why that is.

I do think there is a problem in the US.  I do not believe that problem is guns.  Guns don't make a person smile as he/she ends another person's life, sickness does.

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2001, 07:54:00 AM »

-lynx- is right, and its not fair and it should
not be done, to judge and say ALL US americans are debt.
Hey this kind of shooting happened last year
here in Germany, and guess what ? we have gun-control.

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2001, 08:01:00 AM »
I know you have to be 21 to purchase a .22. I'm saying if there is a gun readily available to a teenager it'd be a .22 as many are purchased for target practice and knocking around tin cans. My point is that you can't keep guns from those who want to kill. The issue isn't gun control, it's raising our children to respect life, take your freaking lumps and move on. The issue is locking up the bastards when they commit crime and stop the bleeding heart liberal excuses for unacceptable social behavior. This thread isn't about France and the Germans, how retarded. It's about a value system in our country and possibly the world that is in the toilet....

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2001, 08:18:00 AM »
Ok, Lynx. Name another incident apart from Dunblane, where someone has walked into a school and opened fire on the children, in a school in England in the last, say, 200 years.

Because I'll be damned if I can find one.

The incident with the machete attack would have been, much, much worse if the guy had had access to a gun, no matter what calibre or method of operation.

If you are going to equip a mentally ill person with a weapon, a machete is far better than a gun.

As for the 10k of fertiliser - has anyone ever blown up a school in the US, nevermind the UK?

Of course I don't really think that AKDejaVu. But when the unbelievably glib statement "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is trawled out, what do you expect people to think? It's equivalent to a metaphorical shrug of the shoulders.

There is now a sickness in America? And what causes that sickness I wonder? The media and it's constant bombardment of children with images of gun related violence? Or is it those damned commie liberals with their poison - because we know America was sweetness and light before 1969?

Should you all believe in Jesus, because a Christian has never raised his hand to a fellow Christian?

Come on DejaVu, what is the answer you would give to the parents of those kids, both those dead and alive? That the perpertrator was diddlyed up and the fact that he had such easy access to firearms is completely irrelevant? Should they go out and buy their kids guns so they can protect themselves, because "a man without a firearm is a subject and not a citizen"?

The UK is no perfect model for gun control legislation (I personally don't agree with an out-right ban on gun ownership) - but I think we have gone in the right direction. Maybe a little too far, but the right direction nonetheless.


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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2001, 08:28:00 AM »
I keep thinking that Rosie O'Donnell is less dangerous with her spoon than the average <place what you want here> with a gun ...