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Offline humble

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« on: May 20, 2005, 12:36:45 AM »
I've tried to keep a positive attitude....but there are serious playability issues here. I've got a AMD 64 3200+ with a gig of PC3200 mem (2.5) and an x800 pro and I'm getting slideshow framerates on occasion. Just spent some time in "tank town" and had framerates of 6 to 8 in F4 mode. Down on the deck in a furball frame rates are slow enough your "behind the plane"...and of course you wont even see a tree with enough time to avoid it.

At some point in time enoughs enough....I could care less about TOD....especially when your "core product"...the one that pays the light bill...is still suffering. How about taking care of the folks that take care of you a bit better. Either tune down the eyecandy or tighten up the coed....

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2005, 12:59:14 AM »
Or you can figure out what's wrong with your supposedly excellent system. That's always an option, too. Especially since we have people with way inferior machine specs running AH2 without any problems...

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2005, 03:48:17 AM »
Humble, I have aproximately the same system specs as yours.

I have no frame rate problems untill I get in an area with lots of trees/bushes... it then drops in the 10/12 FPS.

What I don't understand is... I turned FSAA x4 on (it was set to off before) ... and i got a  20 FPS boost since I did that. Makes no sense to me, but it worked.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2005, 03:48:57 AM »
it took me a while to get it set right but i got my 1.66 ghz procesor and 1 gig ram ati 9600 se to run it at 800 by 600 with some aniliasing pretty well, just because with some options it doesnt play well or in some places doesnt mean you nead to make a big public attack your gonna regret in the morning.  

dont  give em any excuse to get their attention off TOD!

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2005, 04:52:41 AM »
Humble, my system specs are identical. My fps are over 20 most of the time. Only at places like dense populated burning bases it may occasionally go lower.

I play with 1280x1024 resolution and hires textures.

Check if you have some progs running in the background and check the AH graph settings.


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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2005, 08:06:22 AM »
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Check if you have some progs running in the background and check the AH graph settings.

On a Game rig setup you should have less than 20 processes running. What is this "graph setting" thing?

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2005, 08:54:21 AM »
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Or you can figure out what's wrong with your supposedly excellent system. That's always an option, too. Especially since we have people with way inferior machine specs running AH2 without any problems...


My specs are set exactly as skuzzy recommends for my type of system. The system benchmarks out appropriately. And I've never heard so much chatter on FR's and playability as I have in the last month or so....

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2005, 09:01:52 AM »
Actually AH2 is still IN beta...

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2005, 09:18:01 AM »
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Humble, my system specs are identical. My fps are over 20 most of the time. Only at places like dense populated burning bases it may occasionally go lower.

I play with 1280x1024 resolution and hires textures.

Check if you have some progs running in the background and check the AH graph settings.


My system runs "pegged out" (75 FPS) most of the time. As a general rule in a furball I'm in the 40's...but once I drop to the deck my FPS can often slow down dramatically with no warning into the semi slideshow range. In "ground view" my normal FR is 28-32...but it will sometimes drop to anywhere from 2 to 10 FPS with no warning with very little apparent change in surroundings.

I'm running 256 tex all skins etc preloaded with 2 x AA and texture pref and mipmap detail set to "performance".

In game sliders are set about 1/3 in from left edge across the board. The Aquamark bench is 62,000+ and I've bumped it to over 70,000 with no noticible diff in AH so I reset it to stock. I do use the onboard sound on a Nv250 chipset. I ran the ziffdavis audio99 bench someelse posted and had very little CPU drain even under max load (less then 10%) with average loading under 1% thru all but 1 segment of the benchmark.

I do have more processes running then "optimimum"...but with very little overhead. I've turned all but the "essentials" off with no noticable effect. Again these are all running for benchmarking. I've got 15+ years building PC's and have built 200+ over the last 15 years and played online flight sims for 10. Even old dogs can learn new tricks...I'll run out any ground ball that makes sense.

However, I think the real issue here is the underlying engine. I'd guess my system is about 2/3 of the way up the "pecking order" and it shouldnt labor to play a game to this degree.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2005, 09:24:28 AM »
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On a Game rig setup you should have less than 20 processes running. What is this "graph setting" thing?


Technically your right, and I do have double that. I've cut it back to 17 with no measurable difference. The real issue is do you have a "gaming rig" or a family PC. Now I've got 4 desktops + 2 laptops in the house with 3 others just sitting in closet. The other three are all AMD barton core 2500 or so (one for wife and each child) but mine gets used for a bunch of stuff. I've always simply added horsepower vs lowering "demand'...now I cant see a meaningful upgrade I could make that would "solve" the issue. Even going to a 3700+ wouldnt offer a guaranty. I'll probably bumb the mem to 2 gigs and see what that does...but 1 gig "should" be fine...I'm not looking to be the fastest box in town...just want the game playable again...

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2005, 09:32:05 AM »
Take it easy humble, life will get better soon  :lol

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2005, 09:36:51 AM »
What I find strange is that I find the game playable at my rig... a 2Ghz P4 with 500MB mem and a 9600XT 25MB card.

But I got detail sliders border lining too low for my taste atm.

I do get slide shows every now and then but not very often.

But then again I guess I accept it better because I know my rig is old and needs a upgrade. I guess Id be pooed off if I upgraded and the improvment was marginal.

Still though I do think you can tweak your setup quite a bit. Drivers, spyware removal, shutting down processes, ingame tuneing ect ect...

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2005, 09:40:06 AM »
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The real issue is do you have a "gaming rig" or a family PC.

In my particular case yes I do. Each memeber of my household has their own PC, then there's the server and my laptop, for a  total of 6, all connected with Gig-E (copper).

But I understand your point. In case you want to have both setups but only have one machine try MSCONFIG.EXE, it is pretty simple to use and quite handy for killing off services and TSRs. When you are done with a gaming session just click the undo button and you are back to having 50 memory consuming processes again :D

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2005, 09:50:32 AM »
I'm not familiar with MSCONFIG.EXE....I'll check it out....

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2005, 10:06:59 AM »
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I'm not familiar with MSCONFIG.EXE....I'll check it out....
start / run msconfig


startup tab, you can turn off TONs of stuff usuallly



also see skuzzy's post about services you can stop.
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