Send it back to beta.....

[38ruk]

humble i have the same set up as u , i find in the trees with a gv that i get 20- 30 fps in ground view mode  , when alot of traffic comes over ive seen 18 19 fps. i have xp stripped down to 12 proccess and have made many registry tweaks , but i still feel that in gv mode the game is hard on systems. flying isnt an issue at all , usually at my refresh cap. might see 60's at times. but i can agree with your feeling , i thought that this rig wouldnt have any issues with any type of game play , guess i was expecting too much.   38

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[humble]

Originally posted by 38ruk
humble i have the same set up as u , i find in the trees with a gv that i get 20- 30 fps in ground view mode  , when alot of traffic comes over ive seen 18 19 fps. i have xp stripped down to 12 proccess and have made many registry tweaks , but i still feel that in gv mode the game is hard on systems. flying isnt an issue at all , usually at my refresh cap. might see 60's at times. but i can agree with your feeling , i thought that this rig wouldnt have any issues with any type of game play , guess i was expecting too much.   38

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I'm usually fine...but when it goes...it goes. I loaded the 5.5 drivers and they seemed to help the GV rates under F4...was at 32-34 with an occasional 38. Under "load" burned out base multiple planes & GV's it stayed at 18 or so. On the other end FR at alt was actually down a bit 72-74 vs pegged at 75. Flew 1 hop goon hunting in a 190 and it was fine down in the weeds...much improved over before but obviously loads differ...will need a few more hours. I went ahead and set up a seperate AH profile and will pare everything down and report back on difference...at least get some type of general "benchmark" on what performance hit you take optimized vs "normal"....

[humble]

I created a second profile and chopped about 1/2 the running processes (need to go a bit slower after that) but noticed that the changes didnt stick. When I rebooted in "AH" mode I had my default set up. How do I save the changes when using the "computer management" screen??

[MaddogJoe]

Humble, I use this program FSAutoStart I too use my computer for a number of things, and it can get memory clogged at times after running art programs and such. With this program you can clean out the memory cashes as well as turn off as many processes as you like. Its alot like a re-boot to a gaming set-up like your trying to do, but the nice thing is after you close out the game, it automatically restarts all the processes you had turned off. My family knows better than to try and "print" anything when I'm flying as the printer is connected to my computer, and thats one of the processes I turn off.

Give it a go!

[humble]

Originally posted by MaddogJoe
Humble, I use this program FSAutoStart I too use my computer for a number of things, and it can get memory clogged at times after running art programs and such. With this program you can clean out the memory cashes as well as turn off as many processes as you like. Its alot like a re-boot to a gaming set-up like your trying to do, but the nice thing is after you close out the game, it automatically restarts all the processes you had turned off. My family knows better than to try and "print" anything when I'm flying as the printer is connected to my computer, and thats one of the processes I turn off.

Give it a go!

Will do....

[humble]

1st off....

FSautostart is a great utility. IMO it should be "stickied" here somewhere.

I ran one benchmark (aquamark) "as is" with my system in its normal state....total processes 47 overhead mem ~380

Score 61,942

I ran the second with the over pared down using FSautostart...process's at 24 overhead mem at ~175...

Score 62,080

About what I expected since overhead has almost no effect on performance unless the box runs out of resources.

Determining the difference in AH is much more subjective since we dont have an Ah "benchmark" but overall the pared down processes and 5.5 drivers seem to have smoothed out the bottom somewhat although the actual top end performance might have suffered a frame or two.

As far as I can tell my rig is correctly configured and performing as should be expected. I dont see any reason for its often mediocre performance in AH. Hopefully as things move forward the code will continue to be optimized....

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[humble]

[paulieb]

Something's very wrong there, humble. This may sound obvious, but when you switched video cards, did you completely delete the old drivers? My system isn't really that different from yours, except I have a socket 939 3500+ and a Leadtek GForce 6800 GT. 1 gig of DDR 400. I don't usually bother stripping down my OS install. Since I upgraded, the only time I see less than 30 fps or so is when taking off or spawning in a wooded area. Then it bogs to about 20 for a few seconds and rebounds to the 40-60 range.

I run at 1280x1024, with 4x AA and 4x AF, image settings to high quality and VSync off. Why does your video memory display at 380 meg in ctrl-I? Mine displays at 256. I run the 512 texture set with the sliders in AH set pretty high.

Even though your CPU is a step or two down from mine, that X800 pro should be neck and neck with my video card. Yup. something wrong there I think.

[wonton]

I wonder if it's the x700/x800 ATI cards. I upgraded my system a few months ago and have a pci-e x700. Framerates are horrible on the deck especially in the MA. I just figured I was doing something wrong or was trying to get more detail where I didn't have the horsepower to do so.

[humble]

Originally posted by paulieb
Something's very wrong there, humble. This may sound obvious, but when you switched video cards, did you completely delete the old drivers? My system isn't really that different from yours, except I have a socket 939 3500+ and a Leadtek GForce 6800 GT. 1 gig of DDR 400. I don't usually bother stripping down my OS install. Since I upgraded, the only time I see less than 30 fps or so is when taking off or spawning in a wooded area. Then it bogs to about 20 for a few seconds and rebounds to the 40-60 range.

I run at 1280x1024, with 4x AA and 4x AF, image settings to high quality and VSync off. Why does your video memory display at 380 meg in ctrl-I? Mine displays at 256. I run the 512 texture set with the sliders in AH set pretty high.

Even though your CPU is a step or two down from mine, that X800 pro should be neck and neck with my video card. Yup. something wrong there I think.

I'll go ahead and clean up the drivers to be certain....but it benchmarks where it should. It is reporting wrong though....

[Wind]

Originally posted by humble
I've tried to keep a positive attitude....but there are serious playability issues here. I've got a AMD 64 3200+ with a gig of PC3200 mem (2.5) and an x800 pro and I'm getting slideshow framerates on occasion. Just spent some time in "tank town" and had framerates of 6 to 8 in F4 mode. Down on the deck in a furball frame rates are slow enough your "behind the plane"...and of course you wont even see a tree with enough time to avoid it.

At some point in time enoughs enough....I could care less about TOD....especially when your "core product"...the one that pays the light bill...is still suffering. How about taking care of the folks that take care of you a bit better. Either tune down the eyecandy or tighten up the coed....

Wierd.  I have an Athalon XP 1600+ (1.4 gig), 512 mb DDR RAM, and a GeForce 4 128.

Very rarely do I suffer from what you describe.  Granted, all my game settings are at "default", but I find little fault in the game itself.  

W~

[humble]

Originally posted by Wind
Wierd.  I have an Athalon XP 1600+ (1.4 gig), 512 mb DDR RAM, and a GeForce 4 128.

Very rarely do I suffer from what you describe.  Granted, all my game settings are at "default", but I find little fault in the game itself.  

W~

That screen shot is with the "detail slider" set to left of default about 1/3 of the way from the left edge. Middle slider at default and bottom "ground detail" about 1/3 from left edge as well....

[humble]

Wiped drivers (using ATI utility) and reloaded everything...benchmark went from 61,942 to 62,183...so functionally the same.

[Ack-Ack]

Have you tried the Omega drivers for the ATI cards?  They're a lot better than the stock reference drivers ATI releases.



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