Author Topic: Send it back to beta..... (Read 3029 times)

68DevilM · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2005, 10:44:42 AM »

humble

there are manythings you can do to tweak windows to optimized performance, also i always turn off my firewall and antivirus along with anything else not needed in my task manager, before logging into ah.

one more trick i learned a long time ago, to up frame rates is, log into any arena, let everything settle down, then log out and log back in, youll notice that it takes only a second to log in the second time, and your frame rates will be higher, youll have to do this every time you reboot your machine but i promise it works.

if you need any advice on whats ok to disable let me know, ive got a dozen or so pc magazines dedicated to this type of stuff.

SFCHONDO · « **Reply #16 on:** May 20, 2005, 10:47:13 AM »

Go to http://www.blackviper.com and learn how to make a profile for your PC. I made a gaming profile that shuts down all uneccesary processes.

Blackviper site is down at the moment but here is link to an archive article about making profiles. I haven't researched all of this archive. I do know on the original one on his site he gives you suggestions to which one to shut down for the best gaming experiance.

Archive 1

Once Blackviper is back up and running it's a great source of info.
Hope this helps.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #17 on:** May 20, 2005, 10:59:08 AM »

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Originally posted by humble
Technically your right, and I do have double that. I've cut it back to 17 with no measurable difference. The real issue is do you have a "gaming rig" or a family PC. Now I've got 4 desktops + 2 laptops in the house with 3 others just sitting in closet. The other three are all AMD barton core 2500 or so (one for wife and each child) but mine gets used for a bunch of stuff. I've always simply added horsepower vs lowering "demand'...now I cant see a meaningful upgrade I could make that would "solve" the issue. Even going to a 3700+ wouldnt offer a guaranty. I'll probably bumb the mem to 2 gigs and see what that does...but 1 gig "should" be fine...I'm not looking to be the fastest box in town...just want the game playable again...

You should be able to get it down to around 13 depending on your system. Check my post in the Technical Support forum Re: hardware proifiles. I've listed a number of services and processes that you can safely turn off.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150447

I noticed in one of your posts you are using AntiAliasing? Do you really need this? This will hit your frame rates hard, especially low in the trees. I'm running a Intel Prescott 3.2 with a GeForce 6600GT and I get 40+ fps in the trees.

dedalos · « **Reply #18 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:01:13 AM »

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Originally posted by eilif

dont give em any excuse to get their attention off TOD!

Yep, please don't try to fix anything. Nothing is wrong and nothing has ever been wrong. We will fix our issues and you keep rolling out the preety changes

Don · « **Reply #19 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:03:39 AM »

I have a Dell P4 system 3.2gig with HT
I have an older Nvidia 5200 vid card and a decent sound card. I set my videa settings to 45 to 60 fps and have had no problems overall. I play at 1024X768, and with exception of occassional glitches, I have no problems.

Fury · « **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:20:19 AM »

I posted my system specs in the bug forum here. Mine is a 'family pc' bought off the shelf from Sam's Club. My GeForce 64 meg card is the only addition.

Since that post I turned up textures to 512.

During the Coral Sea scenario I was able to strafe gv's attacking Port Moresby town with no frame problems or stutters. Consistently just above treetop level. I only mention that because I've been told that the map had max # of trees to simulate a jungle, and I'm not sure how much more of a furball you can have than gv's, pt boats, cv groups offshore, and friendly/enemy a/c all over the place.

I'm not a great system person, I guess I'm just lucky to have good frame rates. Hopefully a system whiz can help you out here humble.

kj714 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:36:24 AM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
Yep, please don't try to fix anything. Nothing is wrong and nothing has ever been wrong. We will fix our issues and you keep rolling out the preety changes

haha, amen!

Elyeh · « **Reply #22 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:08:55 PM »

I also Sim race and When Nascar 2003 season came out, the same FPS issues happened. One good thing in that sim was in the setup/control panel of the sim you could turn things on or off
i.e. shadows, textures, solar glare. speqcular highlight, reflections etc so depending on your system specs, you could adjust the amount of eyecandy to make your system be able to run the sim.

Maybe something like this is needed in AH. I know there is already adjustments that can be made, but if was expanded maybe this would help out alot.

I have a fairly good system and really have no FPS issues but there was a FPS drop when the update came out.... No doubt about that.

humble · « **Reply #23 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:23:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
You should be able to get it down to around 13 depending on your system. Check my post in the Technical Support forum Re: hardware proifiles. I've listed a number of services and processes that you can safely turn off.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150447

I noticed in one of your posts you are using AntiAliasing? Do you really need this? This will hit your frame rates hard, especially low in the trees. I'm running a Intel Prescott 3.2 with a GeForce 6600GT and I get 40+ fps in the trees.

I will turn AA off when I get home and see the diff...I had it set on application pref. before. Skuzzy had posted settings for 68 devil for a very similiar machine as recommended so I used those....

I'll go ahead and pare down the process's over the weekend and see what difference I get....

humble · « **Reply #24 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:29:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Fury
I posted my system specs in the bug forum here. Mine is a 'family pc' bought off the shelf from Sam's Club. My GeForce 64 meg card is the only addition.

Since that post I turned up textures to 512.

During the Coral Sea scenario I was able to strafe gv's attacking Port Moresby town with no frame problems or stutters. Consistently just above treetop level. I only mention that because I've been told that the map had max # of trees to simulate a jungle, and I'm not sure how much more of a furball you can have than gv's, pt boats, cv groups offshore, and friendly/enemy a/c all over the place.

I'm not a great system person, I guess I'm just lucky to have good frame rates. Hopefully a system whiz can help you out here humble.

I'm certainly open to the possibilities, my overall frame rates are good. But when you get down into the nitty gritty parts where the game really is played they rapidly deteriorate. I had FR in single digits at "tank town" today (although was as high as 28 at timnes)...I dont even fly much right now since invariably FR crawl once I get down and dirty.

I just dont see any reason why a reasonsably "powerful" system that appears to checkout and benchmark on spec should have such issues or require special attention to play AH....

humble · « **Reply #25 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:37:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Or you can figure out what's wrong with your supposedly excellent system. That's always an option, too. Especially since we have people with way inferior machine specs running AH2 without any problems...

To the best of my knowledge there isnt a thing wrong with my system. It benchs right where it should and is both worm and virus free. The only real potential issue is the fact that I use an onboard sound card. But even the best sound cards have very limited upside with AMD 64 systems. The onboard sound is actually more efficient then some sound cards. If the system benchmarked poorly then I'd be posting asking for help in the tech forum. Like I said in the original post...I'm hearing 10x the traffic on FR issues compared to a couple of months ago.

Part of it may be expectations, I've always upgraded as needed to maintain a reasonable system and expect quality frame rates. If I cant get it with "2nd generation" technology I think you have a significant playability issue....

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:51:05 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
To the best of my knowledge there isnt a thing wrong with my system. It benchs right where it should and is both worm and virus free. The only real potential issue is the fact that I use an onboard sound card. But even the best sound cards have very limited upside with AMD 64 systems. The onboard sound is actually more efficient then some sound cards. If the system benchmarked poorly then I'd be posting asking for help in the tech forum. Like I said in the original post...I'm hearing 10x the traffic on FR issues compared to a couple of months ago.

Part of it may be expectations, I've always upgraded as needed to maintain a reasonable system and expect quality frame rates. If I cant get it with "2nd generation" technology I think you have a significant playability issue....

Well, if it's an AC97 Realtec I'd disable it and get a sound card. those things are the suck. Even wiht that on-board sound it shouldn't hit you as hard as it seems tobe,.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:57:22 PM »

If I may make an observation........

You guys with the 64 processors should be kicking my butt. I'm not even going to post my aquamark scores, for fear of the riot that would ensue when I keep getting better fps in AH than you do. Thing is, most of the people I see posting these days with frame rate problems have newer, more powerful computers. My old Barton XP2600+, just from internal design alone, should be inferior at almost any processing chore than a Athlon 64. The only difference I can see is, I have a dedicated gaming setup where most of you guys are using one setup for both gaming and everyday stuff.

And I dont mean I have 2 computers on my desk either. Just 2 hard drives, with 2 totally separate copies of WindowsXP. I'm running 11 processes at startup on my gaming setup (just stripped down WinXP, Aces High, and drivers). The BIOS is cleaned up and optimized to reduce memory usage. I've gone over every tweak guide I can find and set my video card and Windows settings to allow for best performance, while still giving me some quality.

http://www.tweakguides.com

You can find Windows tweaks, BIOS tweaks, video card tweaks, you name it he has it there. There are others I use too, but that one has some of the most current info, and the most all in one place.

Seriously, I dont look at it as a matter of pride that my system beats newer ones in AH, I look at it as people trying too hard to compromise home and game use. Skuzzy has posted a formula to use for your AH settings and video card settings to make sure you arent overloading your video memory. Tweaks are there for anything you want. Use them and you can be happy instead of frustrated.

One other thing. Registry cleaners. Learn to love them. Even your registry can slow down Windows if it gets clogged enough with old junk (or even new junk). The more programs you install, the slower that computer is going to run.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #28 on:** May 20, 2005, 12:59:04 PM »

I'm not so sure that it's the game rather than your system needs some additional tweaking.

I'm currently using an AMD Athlon 2800+, 768meg of RAM, ATI 9600Pro XT 128meg and an Audigy ZS sound card. I'm averaging around 80fps in the sky (dips to about 78fps if in clouds) and around 48 to 54fps on the deck in large furballs over bases with plenty of puffy ack being thrown in the sky. Logically speaking, if you were having so much troubles with your high end system, then I'd be having major troubles with my mid-range system. But I'm not, so I'm less inclined to point to the game as the major cause.

On the other hand, I am still using a 32-bit processor while you're using a 64-bit one and it could be that the game isn't quite yet tweaked for 64-bit processors, which could explain why I get better performance with a 32-bit processor in a mid-range system while you're suffing performance issues with a 64-bit processor in a high-range system.

ack-ack

dedalos · « **Reply #29 on:** May 20, 2005, 01:05:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
I have no frame rate problems untill I get in an area with lots of trees/bushes... it then drops in the 10/12 FPS.

Sounds like a problem to me. Are you talking GVs only or airplanes too?