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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2005, 03:12:26 PM »
if the ppl would stop the morons from blowing up the new stuff, it wouldn't be 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Progress would proceed at an astounding rate, if everybody over there was allowed to do their job (bring the country out of the stone age) without fear of the next car, truck, pile of crap blowing up in their faces...

give it < 10 years ... you'll have them still sneaking over the borders but it won't be to "kill the infindels", it will be to live there..
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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2005, 03:18:28 PM »
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i'm sorry , i must disagree, the infrastructure in iraq was a total disaster BEFORE gulf war #1, saddam robbed his people of every thing , it takes a lot of money to build 27 marble palaces,and buy gold plated guns and sports cars for your crazy kids


naaa if he bought some nice cars for his kids, he probably built some nice roads for them.

may be circle around palace ?

Actualy i could post some pictures from 1999 or 2001. I probably know some people here who has been there.

I will try to find some pictures.
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2005, 03:21:39 PM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2005, 04:00:19 PM »
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naaa if he bought some nice cars for his kids, he probably built some nice roads for them.

may be circle around palace ?

Actualy i could post some pictures from 1999 or 2001. I probably know some people here who has been there.

I will try to find some pictures.


Well, this is Uday's Ferrari before & after the invasion. (the internet says so).





I woulda gone for the block & tranny myself.

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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2005, 04:10:44 PM »
urchin... I'll bite..  How many starved to death in the rust belt and... even during the dust bowl days or the great depression?   Can you find an example?

If you truly believed someone was starving to death.... would you feed him?  Do you think I might?

That is what happened... believe it or not... the government is not the only thing that keeps people from starving to death in America.

It might even be said that in a lot of socialist and communist countries it is the government that causes people to starve.

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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2005, 05:00:10 PM »
See rule #6
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2005, 06:02:51 PM »
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Get real. In Yugoslavia 1999 NATO criminals bombed all (I mean - ALL) bridges across Danube first. Regardless to human shields - people holding hands in a silly hope to save their way of life against a faceless NATO beast...


I nearly got into a fight at a bar in Kolomna with an old Russian army colonel. He kept saying the same nonsense (NATO beast, Russia shouldn't have abandonded Serbia) etc, while I was busy trying to check out the local scenery.

Lighten up, Boroda. See both sides of the story. It's not as one sided as some Americans put it (although some are very good at remaining objective) and your representation of things isn't precisely unbiased either.

Oh btw; going to Russia July 9th :D. Moscow, then Kolomna. Cool huh?

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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2005, 07:14:13 PM »
I get so tired of this Iraq is better off cos we got rid of Saddam nonsense!

That is just not what the Iraqis are saying. Life there was pretty bad before the war under Saddam but now the situation is apalling. The country is a lawless mess, kidnappings, murder terrorism, looting, corruption, poor sanitation health power supply, most of it though not all the result of both US and UK mis handling of the whole situation, and a degree of niavety about what going to war on this nation would achieve that beggars belief. The whole things rates as one of the greatest military and political blunders.

The Iraqi people are currently worse off and so are the familiers of the American and British servicemen who are dying to prop up this ridiculous mess.


Boroda is not exactly correct and much of what he says seems somewhat crazy but its interesting to hear what people in that part of the world have been told and what they percieve.


"In late-80s people expected things to develop into a situation when we still have all Soviet good stuff plus some freedom of choice. But we had to abandon things like free medical care and education and have a choice to buy Coke and chewing-gum.

So, I dare to make a conclusion that "democracy" built with US assistance is only a way of marketing Coke and chewing-gum. Noone cares about people who don't buy this artificial poisons. Noone cares about water and electricity until it starts to influence chewing-gum sales. "

But this point I understand. and I agree. The consumer society business and making money is all that is valued now. Sad huh?

I just don't belive the arrogance that says that the US model of Democracy and capitalism is whats best and we'll use our military to impose it on you because we know whats good for you.

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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2005, 07:21:04 PM »
see u in < 10 skydancer..

wanna see u eat ur words sir
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2005, 07:26:00 PM »
Yes of course in 10 years things will be different. More than likely there will be another Shia fundamentalist Islamic state in Iraq.

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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2005, 07:33:15 PM »
Oh wouldn't that be grand... a democratically elected Islamic government.

I'm sure glad my tax dollars are helping towards this lofty achievement.
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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2005, 02:57:01 AM »
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That is just not what the Iraqis are saying.


You are trolling, or just plain misinformed.

The bulk of the Iraqi's are glad to have us there. Do your homework beyond what the leftist media is showing you, sir.
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« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2005, 02:57:41 AM »
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See rule #6


I should sing the barney song.. this place is nuetered.
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« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2005, 03:39:03 AM »
No Steve I am not trolling.

Iam expressing my opinion / belief about the thread in question if that is OK by you?

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« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2005, 04:32:11 AM »
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Well, this is Uday's Ferrari before & after the invasion. (the internet says so).





I woulda gone for the block & tranny myself.



Well im an atheist .. but this is proper sin IMO