Illegal To Smoke In Your Own Car?

[rpm]

Originally posted by Boroda
Later, by 1980 Olympics we had Marlboro and Chestrfield for 1.50 per pack.

Chesterfields in Moscow? Jack Webb is spinning in his grave!

[Lizking]

Boroda that wouldn't pay my utilities.  Good luck and good on you for making do.

[myelo]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
O question who is more expensive a non smoker or a smoker.

Smoker.

Essentially every study that's ever looked at this finds the total cost of health care for a smoker exceeds that for a nonsmoker and by a significant margin.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by myelo
Smoker.

Essentially every study that's ever looked at this finds the total cost of health care for a smoker exceeds that for a nonsmoker and by a significant margin.

Let's then calculate who's more "expensive" - vegetarian or meat-eater, people who prefer milk to soda and wine to vodka, and so on.

I only understand that if I'll quit smoking I'll have a strong impact on my health, I smoke for 14 years now. OTOH my Grand-Uncle died when he was 92, and he smoked for a whole life. And he died not because he smoked or drank wine. He smoked cheapest non-filtered stuff, and even grew tobacco at his country house garden (he lived in the South, Krasnodar).

Look, they speak about giving MJ or other drugs to addicts for free, but tax tobacco so you guys have to pay up to $6 for a pack of 20!...

[lazs2]

every study I have seen was heavily related to heart and lungs over the long term.   I have no doubt that cigs are bad for the heart and lungs.  

I don't smoke but am unwilling to ban it.   I don't care if people smoke in their homes or their cars or in privately owned buildings.  I don't mind paying for any medical expenses smokers may cost me or drinkers or fatr people or weak people or whatever..

I am unwilling to say euthenize sickly people cut down on expense.   I am unwilling to tell people they have to wear lifejackets in their bathtubs to cut down on expense or close all the fast food resteraunts.

lazs

[Fishu]

Why would heavy smokers and drinkers be more expensive than the ones who don't?
They can die younger, therefore requires no medical attention over the years they didn't live due to the "bad" habbits.

[myelo]

Originally posted by Fishu
Why would heavy smokers and drinkers be more expensive than the ones who don't?

It's not how long you live; it's how sick you are while your still alive. If the first time you lit a cigarette at age 12 your head exploded, your idea might apply. But that's not what happens. On average, smokers live 10 years less than nonsmokers. But they are able to cram more sickness in those 10 less years.

I'm not saying that justifies laws against smoking in your car ... just relying to Boroda's misstatement.

[rpm]

My Grandmother and grandfather both smoked Prince Albert. They both were near 80 when they died. Neither death was due to smoking.

My dad smoked Camels til the day he died at 67. Smoking definitely played a part in his death with emphysema, but the majority of his problems were drinking related.

I think it just goes to show that smoking affects different people differently. Or it could be that the manipulating of ingredients in ready rolled vs plain tobbacco in hand rolled is the cause of more problems.

What irks me is the fact that all the billions of dollars big tobbacco has paid out for health care was not spent on health care. The states squandered the money on lawyers, pay raises for politicians, ect. Not a penny to cover health care costs. Smokers that become ill will pay just as much or more than they would have prior to the lawsuit.