Author Topic: Spoke to Pyro re Spits (Read 6416 times)

Squire · « **Reply #135 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:19:04 PM »

We have been over this already:

Seafire L.IIIc had a 55M Merlin with +18 lbs boost. < NOT the same engine as our current Spit V. It did 358 mph at 6000 feet (FTH)

Merlin 55M is the same engine as powers a Spit L.F. Vb (+18 lbs).

It had a single centerline rack for 1 250 or 500 lb bomb OR a drop tank.

It had the same wing as a Spitfire Vc did. No capacity for wing ord at all. Its ground attack ability is no better than a Spit V is.

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/lr765.html

Guppy35 · « **Reply #136 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:19:29 PM »

I don't know the answer to this, but the pilots notes on the Merlin 66 in a Spit VIII popped up something interesting in regards to boost and max climb.

Spit VIII with +18 max boost for 5 minutes. This is a Merlin 66 same as the LFIX, or Merlin 266 in the LFXVI

Max climb is limited to +12 boost with the Merlin 66.

Since that seems to be the big fear of the XVI is that it will climb at +25 boost I wonder if there is a difference in Boost limit for max climb on the XVI as well? Wonder if it's limited to +18 boost on climb with 150 octane fuel?

Don't have pilots notes on the LFIXe or XVIe

Dan/CorkyJr

Kev367th · « **Reply #137 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:23:01 PM »

Thats what I was looking for Squire thanks.

Now the interesting bit, the Mk IX/XVI at 18lbs boost only manages 364mph at 10000ft, dont get caught by a Seafire on the deck boys.
It will outurn you and with 'e' keep up with you in a climb.

I would hazard a guess there a slight possibility that under 10k theres almost nothing between them.
Better hope he didnt do the old - come with DT's and 75% fuel so hes a lot lighter than you also.

Now tell me it doesnt have the makings of being a real MA problem, even moreso than our current V people whine like crazy about.

Better perk it huh.

Squire do you have data for say 0k up to 20k?

Bronk · « **Reply #138 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:33:17 PM »

The thing that gets me is the LW fanboys are worried about 5 min of 25 lb boost. Thats just SAD. Think about the average MA player . I'd bet that boost is all but gone before he even enters the fight. Then it becomes just another spit.
I can see it now . Dora driver to squad " I just compleated porkin troops 18 fields back.". Squad " wtg good job". Dorka driver "EEEEEEPPPPPP spit XVI diving on me and gaining fast please advise.". Squad " Stirr stick faster. then after he shoots ya down go to the bbs and post a perk spit XVI whine."

Bronk

Kev367th · « **Reply #139 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:36:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
The thing that gets me is the LW fanboys are worried about 5 min of 25 lb boost. Thats just SAD. Think about the average MA player . I'd bet that boost is all but gone before he even enters the fight. Then it becomes just another spit.
I can see it now . Dora driver to squad " I just compleated porkin troops 18 fields back.". Squad " wtg good job". Dorka driver "EEEEEEPPPPPP spit XVI diving on me and gaining fast please advise.". Squad " Stirr stick faster. then after he shoots ya down go to the bbs and post a perk spit XVI whine."

Bronk

Lol , you'd think the Spit XVI's were going to be cruising round the MA at 25lbs boost for hours on end instead of 5 mins.
Hell if he uses it to scramble for IB bogies, most of its gone by the time he gets to say 25k.

Bronk · « **Reply #140 on:** August 04, 2005, 02:58:53 PM »

Kev,
I think you will find that " THE SPIT XVI MUST BE PERKED " people. Are the same people who "FREEKIN AMERIKA IRON GAMEY FLAPOMTIC HTC PLEASE FIX SO MY LW BIRD CAN SHOOT IT DOWN " crowd. I mean cmon just say ya dont want any AC than has any chance of catching a D9. C'mon just say it. Admiting your problem is the first step in solving it. I'll say it again for ya slowly so ya understand.

IT

ONLY

HAS

25lbs

FOR

5

MIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bronk

Guppy35 · « **Reply #141 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:04:01 PM »

Why I want all three Merlin 60 series birds.

There are enough differences to make it worthwhile, although I think the FIX would be non-existant in the MA, and purely a scenario bird.

Think I got the differences nailed down. But feel free to add to it.

Dan/CorkyJr

Lye-El · « **Reply #142 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:04:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
here you are, sir, your keys to your very own Mk. I Spitfire!!

Click...Click.. HEY! Can I get a jump start over here? I've got 190s to catch!

Bronk · « **Reply #143 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:08:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Why I want all three Merlin 60 series birds.

There are enough differences to make it worthwhile, although I think the FIX would be non-existant in the MA, and purely a scenario bird.

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Beg to differ. This will alow HTC to change the eny value. Spit IX with a high eny bring it on . PLEASE:aok

Bronk

Kev367th · « **Reply #144 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Lye-El
Click...Click.. HEY! Can I get a jump start over here? I've got 190s to catch!

Bad news, your going to struggle catching a 190 in the neutered Spit 16. Was going to be tough enough in a full blown 16.

straffo · « **Reply #145 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:18:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Nha bring it on. LW Pilots got the skill unlike the sissyfire pilots

"OPS! He's not turning with me, oh dear, what should I do now, oh hell, I'll just keep turning for a while"

Hahem ...
Isn't it more like :

"OPS! He's not turning with me, oh dear, what should I do now, oh hell, I'll just keep Rurning for a while"

Krusty · « **Reply #146 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:38:28 PM »

You know what? Seems most of the gripin' and moanin' is because you want to chase down dweebs. Don't make more dweeb planes for the dweebs. Just shoot them down and move on. Don't go on a freaking CRUSADE to include super fighters just because you only know how to fly a spit, and spits don't seem to catch the dweebs you want to fly. That's backwards logic. If you have problems catching a select few aircraft, FLY A FASTER PLANE. There are many that are all within 20mph of each other (and to most planes that's close enough to catch).

I see a lot of UNHELPFUL posts, that add nothing to the subject, bringing in flamebait about how they hate group X or how they claim group Y is freaking out.. when in fact I see nothing but those in these discussions freaking out.

The conversation was helpful and constructive, until lately.

Keep the flamebait out, this is important to AH2 and what aircraft are included.

straffo · « **Reply #147 on:** August 04, 2005, 03:57:10 PM »

A crusade for super fighter ?

Why is it super fighter when it's RAF and not when it's LW ?

After 5 hours training any dweeb can survive in the MA with a D9 or a G10.

What is your MA handle Krusty ?

Bronk · « **Reply #148 on:** August 04, 2005, 04:05:59 PM »

Krusty,
Just show me the brit counterpart for the D9 thats unperked. I don't think you can find one. If you were refering to my posts as flamebait . Sorry you feel that way. They were not directed at any one person. They were for the fly my way and the perk x plane is better than my favorite ride crowd.

Ohhh and as to a dweeb ride to shoot down a dweeb ride coment . I am sorry the spit such a nice all around plane and a joy to fly.

Bronk

PS just noticed the easy mode schmuckfire in your sig. Now i understand why ya want it perked.

Krusty · « **Reply #149 on:** August 04, 2005, 04:31:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
PS just noticed the easy mode schmuckfire in your sig. Now i understand why ya want it perked.

You understand nothing, apparently. I will not explain the quote in my sig, nor will I explain off-topic things to you, after I just posted to everyone that we should keep on-topic posts only, in here.