Originally posted by Kev367th
OK lets put this to rest once and for all.
I am using stuff from the proclaimed 109s expert own site - Kurfurst.
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I have never called myself a 109 expert, but I call Kev a liar.
Olivier Lefebvre, noted authority on the BF 109, has stated:
AFAIK 1.98ata boost was cleared late February but it seems to have been slowly introduced into service, I suspect the adjustments needed on the engine and the change of sparkplugs type (supply problems ???) took longer than expected. From other documents I know that C3 and B4 had severe quality problems beginning in late 1944. While it was not much of a problem with low boost, it had some serious effect on higher boost, so it might also have slowed down the introduction of 1.98ata boost. At least DB documents underlined the need for cleaner fuels than those in use at that time. You can safely assume that by March 1945 1.98 ata boost was being introduced, unfortunately I do not have much details for April 1945, but I doubt it would have changed much, given the situation.
1) We can safely assume March 1945 (introduced only), more likely April 1945. OK lets go along with an assumption and not a FACT
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What FACT? Kev`s, the liars 'facts'?
Well let`s see the facts :
- One Wing of 109K was operating on 1.98ata in January/February 1945, for operational trials, as noted in DB meetings.
- 1.98ata was cleared for the DB 605D engine of G-10 and K-4 in late February 1945, according to the French 109 researcher Olivier Lefebvre, aka butch2k.
- There`s written order from the OKL, dated 20th March 1945, noting 4 Fighter Wings from JG 27 and JG 53 to convert to 1.98ata.
- Olivier Lefebvre notes in agreement that this conversion took place.
- Alfred Price lists these four wings in a close date 2.5 weeks later, having 142 aircraft on strenght, out of which 79 were servicable at the time.
All facts...
2) Kurfurst states 79 serviceable K-4, OK give him the benefit of the doubt and assume (again) this was March/April 1945 and probably a best day figure.
Kev has read my site, it`s clearly states where the info comes from and what it`s about... and when the info refers to.
It was clearly stated that the unit strenghts were taken from Alfred Price (and not my data), and refer to 9th April 1945.
Both the date and source is given. Kev distorts these facts.
3) We also have to assume that everyone of the 79 could use or be converted to use 1.98ata. Very very unlikely given Gernamys overall condition at the time.
We don`t have to assume anything. You are assuming the conversion did not take place, against the written orders from the German high command.
It`s facts vs. your assumptions.
So for a two month period (thats the longest time period possible allowing for ALL the assumptions to be correct) there 'may' have been some (probably a lot less than 79), if indeed any K-4 using 1.98ata.
That would make it if introduced one of, if not the rarest bird in the game, and hardly suitable for TOD.
No, the rarest bird would be the MkXIV Spitfire at +21 lbs boost, which is the what Kev wants. There were only 60 planes maximum using that boost, from Jan/February 1945.
That`s fewer planes, and in a comparable period. I don`t see much difference between 100 Spits using high boost in the last four months of the war, and 142 109s using high boost in the last 2 months of the war.
Of course, Kev wants double standards.
He wants to have the rarest Spitfire on the best peformance, and at the same time, he refuses to have it`s equivalent 109 on it`s best performance.
It`s stinking of agenda. One that are interested in the true facts and not Kev`s lies should visit my site, the URL is in the sig.
We should either have perked 1.98ata 109K and +21 lbs SpitXIV on high boost, or just 1.8ata 109K and +18lbs MkXIV.
Not best vs. worst, which is what Kev asks for in a typical spitdweeb fashion.
