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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2005, 05:58:24 AM »
lol wow, I thought I'd be nice and not do anything with that film. I thought I was being nice by doing just that. Nothing.

Seeing as you asked for it.
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« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2005, 06:02:56 AM »
Few more things.

Changing sides to take control of a CV is not cheating.

Zazen was already unpopular before he switched.
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« Reply #77 on: August 15, 2005, 06:11:10 AM »
This exact situation happened to the Bishops not too long ago.
No one claimed the other country was "cheating". No one claimed that there was a "bug" in the program.
They went away for a 1/2 hour and took the base back with a mission, found the CV 20 minutes later and captured it.
No one set themselves up to be a un-official game policeman and switched sides to take control of the CV.
I have run resupplys from CVs to airfields where you spawn so close to field, all you have to do is drop the supplys.
This time a bad decision was made.
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« Reply #78 on: August 15, 2005, 06:33:57 AM »
I you Zazen13 whoever says what you did was cheating or wrong is stupid. The simple thing is it had to be done.
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« Reply #79 on: August 15, 2005, 06:40:08 AM »
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« Reply #80 on: August 15, 2005, 07:03:31 AM »
Z, What you did was wrong. Plain and simple. No soup for you! Back of the line!
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« Reply #81 on: August 15, 2005, 07:18:07 AM »
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I have played this or AW for the past 15 years. There is no other game of this genre that is in the same universe quality of experience wise. I cannot, in good conscience, permit the actions of a few 'griefers' from jeoprodizing HTCs and AH's reputation. I apologize if what I did upset anyone.

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Man... that's pretty pompous. Anyway... just a question. Can't you sink everything? Doesn't that take care of the spawn points or do they stay forever?
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« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2005, 07:46:17 AM »
how is resuppling a field exploiting a bug? Bit of a stretch there isn't it?
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« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2005, 07:52:37 AM »
I have not had the chance to read all the messages so dont know if this has been touched on .   Maybe the Bish were exploiting a weak spot in the game.  

Zazen, you have provided an excellent write up on using the osti to kill vulchers.  In your write up, you support towering out just as you see someone target you with a bomb.  Is that not also gaming the game?  If were going to take measures to stop one sort of gameness why then do you propose and support another form by towering out.  Its late for me, hope this is a coherent messasge.  

Just food for thought.

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« Reply #84 on: August 15, 2005, 07:59:30 AM »
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Man... that's pretty pompous. Anyway... just a question. Can't you sink everything? Doesn't that take care of the spawn points or do they stay forever?


LVT's spawn after the CV and cruiser are dead. As many LVT's as you want, with whatever you want on them. And sinking the entire Task Group only causes it to almost instantly respawn right there at the port, starting the whole thing over again. So the answer is NO, sinking everything does NOT take care of the the spawn points for any length of time. And LVT resupply instantly rebuilds port AAA. No matter how dead the port is, even if EVERYTHING is flat, LVT resupply brings port AAA up immediately. So no matter how dead the port AND the Task Group are, you cannot take it.
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« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2005, 08:07:37 AM »
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I have not had the chance to read all the messages so dont know if this has been touched on .   Maybe the Bish were exploiting a weak spot in the game.  

Zazen, you have provided an excellent write up on using the osti to kill vulchers.  In your write up, you support towering out just as you see someone target you with a bomb.  Is that not also gaming the game?  If were going to take measures to stop one sort of gameness why then do you propose and support another form by towering out.  Its late for me, hope this is a coherent messasge.  

Just food for thought.

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The bish were exploiting a flaw in the game that allows a port to be constantly resupplied from a Task Group via LVT's, regardless of the condition of the port or the Task Group. The LVT resupply keeps the port AAA up regardless of the condition of the port base or the Task Group, rendering the port uncaptureable so long as a few people keep spawning LVT's endlessly.


Regarding an osti towering out if a bomb is dropped on it, towering out takes the osti out of the game, at least for a few seconds, and permanently if the VH is dead. All towering out does is prevent the bomb dropper from getting a kill, just like a ditch does with a plane. Either way, the osti is out of the game for the same amount of time. Not so for the port AAA with never ending Task Group resupply.
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« Reply #86 on: August 15, 2005, 08:09:17 AM »
By the way, I think both the Task Group/port resupply exploit AND side switching exploits should be removed ASAP, at the same time. As should the "ability'' to "hide" a Task Group.
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« Reply #87 on: August 15, 2005, 08:34:52 AM »
If the abilities to spawn was removed while the CV is dead, and the CV has a time limit to live after its port is killed, then it respawns as the country who owns the port, both problems would be solved.  Actually hunting a CV can be fun. We did it last week when the enemy hid our cv. We (Nightmares) sent out search patterns looking for it. We found it, but my B26s ran out of fuel about a 1/2 sector from it. So I reupped in B24s. The other guys made attacks as well, sinking the CA but the AA gunner was good and we had to work for it. The CV was 7-8 sectors from a friendly base. It took us 2 hours to get it back.
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« Reply #88 on: August 15, 2005, 09:17:06 AM »
So captain why couldn't you all just leave it along for about 20-30 min and let it move away from the port? Sorry just don't see how resuppling a field is a bug or exploit.
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« Reply #89 on: August 15, 2005, 09:39:52 AM »
If the place suks go find another fight.
They would be leftd with noone to attack them , wich would make them bored in the end.
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