Originally posted by Jackal1
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Fair trial my aching back. Yea, I`m sure they felt certain that they would get a "fair trial" after what they had been through and had witnessed in the past concerning situations like this. 
Their first attempt doesn`t seem to show that.
I think if anything is passing over anyone`s head it is the fact that after the initial "showboat" attack, they had their butts in a crack legaly and had the public eye on them. The time was spent shuffling blame and with attorneys trying to dig a way out with as much damage control, politicaly, as possible.
Hard to debate or discuss anything in a firefight. all the noise , blood and stuff sort of puts a damper on it.
There are no larger problems than rights and the operation of our country. I am sorry that you can`t see that. Maybe take off the rose colored glasses. Might clear your vision up.
I believe that`s exactly the point I made. What they didn`t fight for was to have all the effort and sacrifice thrown down the tubes.
We can start with the NRA comment here. If you actualy think that a magazine/website is all there is to the organization you are very, very misinformed. NRA is the voice, a very large voice, of it`s members. When they speak on an issue, you can bet your sweet bippy that politicians listen.
There is alot more one can do too. Starting at local , state levels all the way up the line. The trick is to make your voice heard by groups. Something that will effect votes. That`s pretty simple. you should be able to grasp it without blowing a circuit.
Automatic weapons are not illegal with a permit.
Waiting periods have no effect on anyone besides the law abiding.
Felons can and do own guns.
They are the only ones that gun laws do not effect.
Not much when it comes after the fact.
And like I said... David could have been taken down at the lumber yard on any given week. The rest would have been simple. There would have been no casualties as there would have been no gunfire.
Do tell! I think that clears a lot up then. lmao
Yep, I`m not your dad. Something we can agree on and both be thankfull for. [/B]
1)Oh so now a jury of your peers isn't a fair trial???
2)BATF agents killed were Conway LeBleu-age 30, of Hammond LA, Todd Mckeehan-age 28, of Mandelville, LA, Robert Williams-age 26, of Little Rock, AK, and Steven Wills-age 32, of Houston, TX. Of the sixteen (16) other agents that were injured, most were said to have been shot by automatic weapons fire . . . including that from a .50 caliber machinegun. According to BATF agent and spokesperson Sharon Wheeler, "The problem was that we were outgunned . . . and we couldn't fire randomly into the building because of women and children known to be in there."
3)Thats why you don't get in a firefight with the BATF in the first place. You go to jail, get bonded out, and have your day in court. That is how the system works. Not repulsing a LEGAL warrant with fire-arms.
4)No one is throwing any sacrifice down the tubes. That was a LEGAL warrant.
5)So like I said you just subscribe to the NRA and think that counts as keeping an eye and regulating the government. Weak. You can do a lot more than that but being as that is the first thing that came to your mind of how you "monitor and regulate" the government shows that you really are brainwashed.
6)I said "illegal for the general populace", They are you have to be specifically licensed and registered. You have no idea who a waiting peroid effects, that is plain ol NRA propaghanda you are spewing. I should have said its illegal for felons to own.
7)Mandatory evacuation call came prior to Katrina.
8)Yeah we just took down your Messiah can we come have a look around inside....I am sure the BD's would have just opened the door and let them right in.
9)Well when you go around talking down to people by calling them son expect them to not be really interested in what you have to say. My dad taught me better manners than that, too bad yours didn't.
