Overturning the Gospels

[Silat]

I find I agree with much of this editorial.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342324/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098/

"Katrina has reminded us that Christian morality should be about responding to the wretched and loving the unlovable—not about other people’s sex lives.

Sept. 14, 2005 - There was a great piece in Harper's last month, "The Christian Paradox: How a Faithful Nation Gets Jesus Wrong'' by Bill McKibben, about how three out of four Americans believe the Bible teaches this: "God helps those who help themselves.'' The Gospel according to Mark? Luke? Actually, it was Ben Franklin who came up with these words to live by.

"The thing is,'' McKibben writes, "not only is Franklin's wisdom not biblical; it's counterbiblical. Few ideas could be further from the gospel message, with its radical summons to love of neighbor. On this essential matter, most Americans—most American Christians—are simply wrong, as if 75 percent of American scientists believed that Newton proved gravity causes apples to fly up.''

[Hangtime]

Aside from a wry smile, I decline to comment further.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

LOL, Franklin's message was not even close to "counterbiblical". What a crock of crap.

Franklin's intent was pretty clear, even to the very dimwitted. His point was that God helps those who make an effort on their own behalf. Meaning God and those who follow him, will help anyone who is doing what they can to help themselves, but will not help those who will not help themselves or will not be helped.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Aside from a wry smile, I decline to comment further.

Hmmm yup. Same.

[derelict]

ref:  The story of the servants and the talents(?).  The only one out of the three who got anything back (including praise from his master) was the one who took action  "Helps those who help themselves".

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Silat
I find I agree with much of this editorial.

this: "God helps those who help themselves.'' The Gospel according to Mark? Luke? Actually, it was Ben Franklin who came up with these words to live by.

some folks are so ignorant to the bible because the havnt cracked its pages ever.

What the bible does say along those lines is

'if a man doesnt work he ought not eat.
 so yeah god will help you if you help yourself

and in america god will help you even if you never worked a day in your life(welfare)

I think if your able to work and you wont you shouldnt be allowed to eat.

Now tell me"cleanliness is next to godliness" where can you find that lil goody?

obtw  LO, Lew.

[Hangtime]

this could come in handy..

religious discussion enhancement device

[Yeager]

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and ye shall be Shaved.

[Gunslinger]

Wow this is a troll if I ever seen one.

But just to feed silat so he doesnt cry himself to sleep tonight.  The churches down south did more to help the victoms of the storm than FEMA or the state/city did in the first few days.

I think what the article is missing is this:

"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life"

[Nash]

Yeah, sounds nice, but nobody is teaching anybody how to fish.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, sounds nice, but nobody is teaching anybody how to fish.

You know why?  Every time somone sudjests such a program the "po folk" get scared from ad campaigns that the somone is taking away their wellfare.  

When I was unemployed in Texas for 3 months I HAD to get on Un-employment to help feed my family.  It was a bad situation all around but I was willing to take any kind of job that presented itself.  The Texas Workforce Commision basically MADE me look for a job and go to interviews and such in order to recieve un-employment.  

In other areas I really have to disagree with you.  There are a ton of Govt funded programs and grants to help people learn new skills and get better educated.  

Everything else is just votes and politics.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, sounds nice, but nobody is teaching anybody how to fish.

I figgered Silat was the "Trolling Coordinator" in NO?

Karaya

[Nash]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
When I was unemployed in Texas for 3 months I HAD to get on Un-employment to help feed my family.  It was a bad situation all around....

Well....  I'm certainly, something, to hear that you survived your moment of crisis by suckling at the government's tit.

How did that feel? Suckling at the tax payer's collective tit, that is?

Perhaps a better question would be: What if not for the government's tit? Bowls of Alpo for the kids?

See - this is what Government is about. The only reason you pay these bastards is to make your commute easier, to give you a leg up when you need it, and to make regular working folks not have to look at your sorry bellybutton when you're down on your luck. And to ease the pain that children feel when you screw up.

Glad you made it out. Don't bite the hand that fed you.

[SOB]

Hmmm...I know how to fish, but I don't like to eat them.  Is that why I don't believe in Jebus?

[Toad]

Never was a big SA supporter but I will probably become one.

These guys don't talk about it... they do it.

Major Darryl Kingsbury, incident commander for The Salvation Army’s relief efforts in the three states of Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi says that there are now 33 Salvation Army mobile feeding units and seven Southern Baptist feeding kitchens now serving on the Gulf Coast.

“As more people return to the area or are now just finding our canteens, we expect that our feeding operations in Gulf Coast will reach 100,000 meals a day in the Long Beach area and an additional 50,000 meals in the Biloxi area.” said Kingsbury.

And that's not all they're doing.