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Offline RobMo68

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Depression is NOTHING to even joke about!
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2005, 02:35:29 AM »
I'm 37 years old and I've been fighting it for 5 years now! It got really bad when my wife left me for another man, a couple of month's ago. Now I'm divorcing her lyeing, cheating A**. Most of mine centered around her drinking and trying to save a marriage, that she was hell bent on destroying. I got so bad, I almost DID something very stupid (12 gauge head-ache pill), until I decided to get off my sorry A** and go for a bike ride (bicycle, not motorcycle) and I rode about 20 miles (I went out 10miles, then came back home). When I got home I was so exhausted from the ride, that I fell asleep in my recliner, and woke up about 12 hrs later refreshed and ready to do it again (even though my legs hurt like hell). And I've been doing it every morning for about 3 weeks now, and I'm feeling better and better everyday! So YES, exercise DOES HELP! It helps take your mind off the problems, and it helps you get stronger, both mentally and physically! Don't get me wrong, I still think about her very often, but everyday that goes by I GET STRONGER, and will soon forget about her!

Just my 2 cents worth, but hope it helps!

Edit: oh BTW, it's pretty obvious that YOU do have friends here, even if they hate ur guts in the MA, that will listen if ya wanna talk about it! SO, YOU ARE NOT ALONE ! There's plenty of peeps here that HAS been there, done that, and a few that are still struggling with it!
YOU ARE NOT ALONE !

AND IGNORE THE DUMB A** FLAMERS, they're too stupid to know anything about it!
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« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2005, 02:39:56 AM »
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Go rob a homeless person  of all their earthly goods.Makes you feel like a King walking among the peasants.Plus if they have any aluminum cans you can sell those at a decent price.I primarily use them as my working retirement fund.


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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2005, 02:47:45 AM »
Get a hobby where you can socialize IRL. You obviously like aviation so how about soaring or RC-planes for example? Excercise is of course a good thing, but it may get you even more depressed if you don't have the motivation for it. You might also want to try taking some fish oil, it has been reported to help with depression.

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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2005, 06:38:41 AM »
I've dealt with depression in my life by working.  Two jobs will keep you busy, if you can't find a second job, it's time to do all of those home projects, such as building the deck and installing the fence you always wanted etc.
Your close friends will pick up on it however...

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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2005, 07:54:47 AM »
Too much self analysis is a bad thing when you're down.

BUT the "setting goals" thing is right on target.

As far as daily life goes, pick a goal for the day, and make sure it happens.  Pick a thought pattern goal too -- pick a target for the day, like "I'm not going to slam myself for my looks." Every time that kind of thoiught comes up, interrupt it. It's less overwhelming than trying everything at once.

Second thing about picking goals -- and I think its what somebody else was tryign to get across -- is more of setting priorities. Decide what's really important to YOU, and dont sweat the rest. Most people have only a couple things they really value, so decide what yours are and blow off the rest.

Break the routine, pick a new activity. Pick a skill to develop, like martial arts (as long as THEY dont start with the peace through zen stuff).



Escape is NOT the answer. Whether you hide in booze, sex (virtual or real), work, or ANYTHING -- the stuff inside will find its way out. You cant run from your own guts.

As they say, wherever you go, there you are.
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« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2005, 07:59:43 AM »
buy... or better yet... build a Hot Rod.   Car guys don't get depressed... it is the combination of exercise, working with your hands and sense of accomplishment...

If you build something unique and old... you won't be lonely... I have never driven the Healey anywhere when I didn't have people walking up to me just to ask about it.

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« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2005, 08:20:30 AM »
FuBar,

Very gutsy move laying your life and troubles out here like this for everyone to see.  Here's a VERY BIG from a guy that's been there and is constantly feeling like he falls short in his own eyes.

Oboy, here it goes....

Depression, to me, feels like the LIES that my own mind tells me about myself constantly get through.  There's a part of my ego (or little voice) that tries to convince me that I'm not WHAT I'm suppossed to be or WHERE in life I'm supposed to be.  

Whenever something happens to me, my ego judges it as EVIDENCE that helps support those negative thoughts.  

Example would be that if at some time I might not have a GF, my ego could use that as EVIDENCE that helps support the LIE, or negative CORE BELIEF about myself that "I'm not like everyone else" or maybe it's "I'm a loser" or "I'm just not good enough" or in my case it's "I'm not wanted".

Another example could be something really small and stupid like my house is a mess.  My ego will jump right in and proclaim "Your just a slob"

The trick is to see these negative thoughts as what they really are.  Just LIES.  

So why does my ego want to tell me these Lies?  It usually, for people, stems from a negative judgement that they made when they where a child about themselves.  Or several judgements, but usually it all boils down to one BIG one.  Maybe something that their parents said, that they took wrong and believed or maybe a situation happened that their child minds interpreted in some negative way towards themselves... and their ego has been  using life experiences from then on to support that belief.

I'll use my own CORE negative belief as an example.  When I was a kid, I was bounced around from my mom to my dad to my grandparents constantly.  I actually went to 12 schools in 12 years just from being bounced around.  Also, my old man was married to a woman that was very jealous of me and my relationship with my dad.  Not my fault, I was just a kid trying to growup, but she managed to talk him into getting rid of me for good and not letting me live with him anymore.  Well, at the time, I couldn't see any of this as it really was, a jealous woman and a weakness in my dad.  I saw it as something about me and I made a terrible judgement about myself that was "I'm not wanted" and my ego started using things in my life from that time on to help support that judgement about myself for the rest of my life in many different aspects.  And that is where I could come up with "I don't have a GF because I'm just not wanted"  It's that simple and a very powerful belief.

Maybe this helps.  If this resonates with you, what you can do is identify what that Core Belief is and whenever you start telling yourself one of those negative thoughts or LIES, you'll know that it's just BS and you'll know why.  Because of some stupid judgement you made a long time ago that has nothing to do with squat now and was a wrong judgement in the first place because you were just a kid and couldn't see the situation for what is really was.

How you can try to identify this Core Negative Belief is the next time you have a negative feeling about yourself, just ask yourself "what in the world, in my past, could have given me that notion?"  Or you could even try it without having a bad thought and just ask yourself, "what happened in my past that could be effecting how I see myself now"  I know it sounds too easy, but it really works that way.

btw...  everyone has a Negative Core Belief so don't think you're more broken then everyone else... actually, your better off then most because you already see that something is wrong and have the guts to lay your cards on the table for us gamoaks to see.

again btw.... usually negative Core Beliefs develop around your age or a little younger.

excercise is an awesome way to also feel good about yourself on the outside and inside as well.


Again a VERY BIG YOUNG MAN!
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« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2005, 08:29:48 AM »
Therapy.

I am by no means an expert but it seems to me that medicating just treats the symptoms of depression. Talk to an actual shrink so that you can find the cause of your depression. There should be some way that you can get assistance if you need it to pay for some therapy in conjuction with medication.
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« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2005, 08:35:29 AM »
What works for me is to go out and have some fun, like just go to the lake and do some hiking out there or something social like go bowling, or even a hobby. Out of all 3, bowling is better. If you see a girl there either by herself or with her girl-friends, chances are they are single also.  Find one to talk to and go from there
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« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2005, 08:51:27 AM »
FUB, I too suffer from depression. I think mine is brought on by being affected by things out of my control. I have to learn to say fuggit alot. I was a perfectionist at a very young age, and when things dont turn out perfect it really eats at me.

    Ive found that if I stay busy it helps. Starting projects at home that normally I wouldnt have attempted, even at friends homes helps me. Exercise does work wonders. And get off the computer. I swear it will be the cause of early alziemers for many in the near future.

    Girls are nice, but dont get wrapped up in them at your age. You are still a kid. Enjoy. Do stuff kids do. Go work for a plumber for awhile. Try learning something you never thought you would. Dont let the woes of the world bring ya down. Being a teen is hard, but once you graduate and get on your own, life is a wonderful thing.

     Go make friends. Go somewhere, where people are doing real things, and get involved. Before you know it you will not only have acquaintences, but a few more friends as well.

      Talk to someone about how you are feeling. It doesnt have to be a paster or your parents..somethings I could never talk to them about. Try a person in town you respect, and trust. Ask his/her advice. But talk to someone. My vent guy was a welder here in town. He gave me alot of good advice.

      Hang in there bud..its a much nicer world than it seems.

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« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2005, 09:00:31 AM »
I would give the Hot Rod thing a try... lot less depressing than some of the "cures" I am seeing here.

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« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2005, 09:01:43 AM »
eat right - no crap, exercise - break a sweat for at least 30 minutes a day/7 days a week and get plenty of sleep - at least 8 full hours every night

do that for 30 days and come back and tell us how you feel
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« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2005, 09:07:34 AM »
go to Jack on th Box
buy a bacon bacon cheesburger and comback and say how depressed you are
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« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2005, 09:34:47 AM »
What I have to say on the subject will piss some people off. nothing new there. :
  My wife suffers from what has been diagnosed as post traumatic stress syndrome. Severe depression. Anxiety attacks. periods where she cannot take even the simplest things as grocery shopping , etc.
  This all came to light and started after a cancer operation. A very succesfull one.
  She has been treated for this for about 3 years now. Therapy, medication, etc, etc.
  She goes in. "Is the medication working?" "Absolutely not". What do they do? Add or change medication. I sit on on the "therapy sessions". An amazing thing has came to light about the so called "experts" that I have witnessed in the past few years. These are some of the most screwed up folks I believe I have ever seen. Three I have witnessed are big into 'self medication", especialy the kind that makes you go fast such as Ritalin. They are so far gone they don`t orbit this planet but about once a week. They live in fantasy worlds.  Has all this crap helped? Hell no. It has made matters worse by a long shot. In short , they suck.
  I have been dealing with an injury to my neck for about four to five years. Very friggen painfull. I have been diagnosed, examined, X-rayed so many times I can`t count them. I have been down the tube in MRI machines so many times I`m thinking about getting a job with the circus as the man who gets shot from a cannon. :)
  I`ve been to so many neurologists and neurosurgeons to be examined that I think I could pass a friggen medical exam myself. Has the problem been taken care of? Hell no. They are too busy collecting money and diagnostics to actualy do something about it.
  Depressing? You answer that one. :)
The one common thing about all these doctors is the immediate knee jerk reaction that I need to be on antifriggendepressants.  To a T, they have all tried to prescribe me this crap. I fell for it once and tried it. Holy Moly... thought I was ready to take up the hobby of gorilla wrestling or eating door jams. Changed medication. Same same.
  The last one that wanted to go down that road , I lowered the boom on. I told him" Hell yes I`m depressed". I asked him if he would be depressed if over aperiod of years he had been diagnosed, examined, shuffled like dominoes from one "specialists" to the other and the problem was still there and had not been taken care of. I told him to shove his antis , put down the calculator, and actualy do something about the problem. No more antidepressant prescriptions for me. :)
  I want take the lame bellybutton pain medication unless it reachs the point to where my muscles lock up and I end up in the emergency room for injections. The stuff makes me feel like crap. I take muscle relaxers that I have prescribed to reduce spasms and control them. They are prescribed for four daily. I take them when I need them, no more.
  So.......... I know about depression and how I deal with it.
  My advise: Deal with it! Do like I do..take the pain and depression and don`t let it whoop you. You are your own defense system. If you feel yourself getting down.....give yourself a good biatch slap and pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Don`t allow yourself to be beaten by anything. Grit your teeth, pull yourself up and go full damn speed ahead.
  Sometimes you have to take responsibility for how you feel and how easily you either get whipped or overcome something.
 Pick it up, shake it off and take control of it.
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« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2005, 09:40:56 AM »
FooB,

HUG

  I could go on and on about depression... but won't.  They are all right about exercise, therapy and meds.  You hit the first step, recognition that you have a problem and now you want to seek help.  
  Depression is a deep pit that is easy to fall into and hard as hell to climb out of....some don't make it. My Brother didn't make it and I almost didn't make it. *Thank Gawd for fat big toes, couldn't reach the trigger*  Don't let it get that bad.  Your 17 now, without help it will get much more worse with age.
  You got alot of friends here FooB and we all care about ya and have respect for ya also. So go and get some help and lets work on making you better.

HUG


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