Question for the tinfoil hatters:

[J_A_B]

So I have a question for those who think the Federal government wants to destroy our freedoms to subjugate the population.


Why do they need to?


The Federal government is already in full control.  They have no signifigant opposition.  They can do practically anything they want.  What, then, is their motive for supposedly wanting to conquer what they already control?


It's not evil intent I worry about.  It's their good intentions.


J_A_B

[Shane]

"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

[Ghosth]

JAB, let me see if I can pull off a "what if"

(Its early here & I'm just now tasting the coffee)

What if anyone walking down the street could at any time walk up & kick in your door. He has no reason to now, you have nothing he doesn't have already. But what if suddenly he could.  

Would you be happy with that situation?

What if next week the power goes out, the stores are all looted, and now people are going through houses looking for food.

Would you be happy with this situation?

Rather than trying to control situations that you can't forecast or predict. Doesn't it make more sense to put locks on your doors?

Granted, if someone wants to badly enough, he can still come though.
But it takes longer, makes noise, warns you & the neighbors that its happening.

Gives you time to grab the shotgun, hide the kids, etc.

Am I worried that our current goverment will try to take more control than they already have?? No, not really, but then I don't leave my door unlocked at night either. But its not the current goverment that I worry about. Its the one that decides in a few years that citizens shouldn't own guns, or knives, or cars, or have internet access.

Or something else that they can't control but want to.

What if someone tried to do away with democracy in this country, pull off a military coup, and declare a dictatorship?


I'm sorry but Goverment has systematicly been takeing away & limiting our freedoms for the last 10 years. I do NOT see it stopping, it see it getting worse.

[lazs2]

Ok... Government is a disease that thinks it is its own cure.

Is a disease evil?  Nope... just doing what it does best and that is to feed off the host and grow.

The constitution is vacine... but  it doesn't kill the disease, it keeps it in check... So long as the disease of government is kept in check by the constitution then all is relatively well...

New virulent strains of the disease pop up now and then that try to get by the vacination that is the constitution... they try to modify the vaccine... Sometimes we as the host get lax in letting the vaccine.

We have people in government and busybodies in blue states that would tell us that the constitution needs to be interpreted in a more flexible way... one that would allow more power taken from the people and granted to the government..

like "free speech" is just a suggestion and "right to keep and bear arms" means only that bears can have guns and... "martial law means 3 terrorists in iowa"

The government has managed to be far more powerful than the founders ever intended.  

you have to decide if you want more government or less...

At present we don't have much choice in the available viable parties... both want to be more powerful and control more of your life and take more of your money...  one is moving toward it and the other is sprinting.

lazs

[derelict]

The constitution is vacine... but it doesn't kill the disease, it keeps it in check... So long as the disease of government is kept in check by the constitution then all is relatively well...

That there be signature material!

[lazs2]

to be honest... I don't know if that is an original thought or one I have heard somewhere over the decades.   It is how I feel tho.

lazs

[lasersailor184]

They have no signifigant opposition.

Me and my garand think otherwise.

[storch]

what does your garand have to do with it?

[lasersailor184]

They have no signifigant opposition.

The hands of a skilled marksman can take a government apart should the need arise.

[Chairboy]

For once, I have to say that I agree with every single word in Lazs's post, without exception.  Well said.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
The hands of a skilled marksman can take a government apart should the need arise.

Hmmm...would not the "other side" also have skilled marksmen?  

[lasersailor184]

You're assuming that police and soldiers are mindless drones who do everything they are told to.

[Naso]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
You're assuming that police and soldiers are mindless drones who do everything they are told to.

You're assuming they're not.

[Toad]

I've said this before but perhaps it bears repeating. In our military, you swear to uphold the Constitution, not the President.

[lasersailor184]

 doh.