Planes of Fame F6F from Chino Down

[Shuckins]

They can have my Cavalier when they pry my cold, dead fingers from around the steering wheel.

Lighten up please.  You seem to be willfully misconstruing my statements in the original post.  At no time was it ever suggested that the government step in and seize control of those privately owned aircraft.  

However, I was serious when I suggested that we, as aviation enthusiasts, could encourage  the owners to reduce their flight time.  We could also help finance efforts to build new aircraft to take over the air-show and recreational flying currently being performed by these historic aircraft.

[Nash]

It's been an interesting thing to watch, Hang.

A looooong time ago.... maybe a couple of years even.... you were this independent spirit - saying what you thought, whatever it was, rich in prose and thoughtfulness... and always always true to a spirit that, over time, emerged fully realized as if painted - inch by square inch - across a vast and ready canvass.

Damn the torpedos, no matter the direction. Characture and laziness was your biotch. No matter the topic, you could cut to the gist of a thing in point five seconds flat and, as if in a scene from a Ninja movie, hold their entrails smack in front of folk's eyes just long enough for people to process what just happened - before they collapsed.

I always asked about you after you left. "Where's Hang?"... and "tell him I said Hi.".... and "Tell him to get his bellybutton back in here."

And then, you came back. What a disappointment.

Yer a disgrace to the state of Arkansas, and a poor excuse for an American to advocate any infringement on the rights of the people to pusue their lives, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness with their own personal property.

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just a little bit at a time.. suspend a small right here, infringe a little on personal liberty there...

Shukins, that's just wrong. Your part of the problem.. and that's a damn shame because the folks that SHOULD have their rights infringed upon are folks like you, folks that think it's no big deal to make others pay the price for your perfidity with regards to the rights of Americans.

One day, it will be your property they come for.

Am I the only person who ponders the heightened level of paranoia with regard to the infringement of personal rights.... during administrations who purport to defend those rights?

And what of the claim itself?

That: "One day, it will be your property they come for?"

Unless of course you're talking about getting your joint bulldozed for a Wallmart - can you be serious?

In the last 6 months, you've bought a gun, have solicited advice on moving to such places as Utah and Ohio (of all godforsaken places), and are freaking out about personal rights.

I just gotta chuckle.... and assume that this really all boils down to some chick... somehow or other. I like the old Hang.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Nash
In the last 6 months, you've bought a gun, have solicited advice on moving to such places as Utah and Ohio (of all godforsaken places), and are freaking out about personal rights.

Whatcha got against Ohio?

[Nash]

Lots.

[Hangtime]

Nash, I call 'em like I see 'em.

Always have. Hot buttons are still the same.. mealy mouthed conceit and PC noises still bring me outta the woodwork. I believe now, just as I did then that politicans are not to be trusted and religionists are selling prosthetics. My paitence has become shorter.... but I never did have anything in the sack that looked even remotely like tact to begin with, so no big change there.

I can recall a time when it was far easier to focus on raising my kid and deal with her problems than it was to sit and wonder what happened to the America I grew up in. But now I look around, and wonder what the hell happened to the Nation I once loved unconditionaly.

Sure, I'm jaundiced. I watched my city get blown up, watched my politicans, some I voted for, march our kids off to a righteous war.. one that turned out to be based on a lie. Watched my kid lose her car (one I bought for her) because a drunk boyfriend 'borrowed' it and got stopped for DWI. Watched a pilot I revered and respected get railroaded by the same government he damn near gave his life to defend. Watched my father in law get screwed outta a 50 year pension and the fat cat executive that stole his money get handed a free pass for doing it. Watched a city die, and the folks that tried to protect themselves and their neighbors in that hellhole get disarmed in violation of the most basic rights. Just watched a guy on Burbon Street get jumped by 5 white cops and beat on for being drunk.. on Burbon Street. And watched the attorney lie thru his teeth to try and justify it. Just another day in the neighborhood. A beautiful day in the neighborhood.

Yea, I'm bitter. The nation I loved is gone. Maybe for good. And, I let it happen. We let it happen. It happened a lil bit at a time. Didn't feel a thing.

Maybe I'm just fed up. And mad. And unwilling to let little **** go by anymore. Because thinking like yours, Yeag, Shuckins has become passe, because it's no longer about the rights of free men anymore.. it's about feel-good legislation that cuts right across the grain of the ideal that the Nation was founded upon.. the Camelot I fought for, the Citadel I defended is a now a hollow sham.

But thanks for caring Nash. Not that I give two ****s one way or the other about what you or anybody else thinks of me.

...and that has never changed.

[GtoRA2]

Well said Hang.


We have already given the government so much power over our lives. Giving them more is just idiocy.


Might as well burn the Constitution and let the UN run this nation if we give much more to the government.

[Nash]

I couldn't give a damn what your views are, Hang.

It only mattered that they were reasoned, well expressed and, coming from you, artful.

Your last post is why I keep renewing my subscription.

[Hangtime]

I would be slightly mollifed if you looked at your entrails and collapsed now.

[Nash]

For one - that didn't happen here.

For two - I've seen way worse. I could prolly fit in a full day's work before it sunk in. So that's not going to happen.

[Hangtime]

Bummer. The new kindler gentler O'club format doesn't provide much slack for a truly satisfying evisceration these days.

[Nash]

There are ways.

[Dago]

I wondered why my friend Randy called to talk and why he sounded so sad.  Randy has plenty of time in that aircraft, and I am sure Art was a friend.

dago

[J_A_B]

"Whatcha got against Ohio?"

I live in Ohio.  Anything Nash thinks is bad about this state is in reality twice as bad.  Anything he thinks is good about the place is likely just an error on his part.  We have about 5 nice months a year.  The other 7 months are divded between a month or two of winter, and 5 or 6 months of what is best described as cold wet slop.  Unemployment sucks, the roads suck, and our utility companies suck.  Any local growth comes at the expence of some other part of the state since practically everyone who can leave the state, does.  Growth is even more limited because most communities are run by cranky old people who hate development.  Cleveland has about half the population it had 50 years ago yet somehow twice the crime.  

If I still live in this state 10 years from now, I'll have done something very, very wrong.

J_A_B

[Yeager]

march our kids off to a righteous war.. one that turned out to be based on a lie.
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You buying that line hang?  A lie is intentional.  

I still haven't seen any one single bit of proof that Bush knew at the time he ordered the invasion that he knew as a certainty that hussein held no WMD.  

If you have have one bit of proof just tell me where to find it.  

If anyone knows where the proof of an intentional lie about the "decision to invade Iraq" resides, point it out to me.

I need proof, and I will be greatful for the information.

[Debonair]

Everyone knows its not polite to mix truth & politics