Author Topic: 2 Norwegian coastguard inspectors kinapped (Read 6496 times)

Nilsen · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2005, 02:31:18 PM »

The inspectors are in radio contact with thier own ship via _their own_ radios. They are not beeing treated badly but they will be kept onboard. The same trawler has been arrested by the norwegian coastguard before and the company it belongs to has had to pay hefty fines to get it back.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2005, 02:32:47 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Makarov9
Oh I hope this leads to something similar to Clancy's "Red Storm Rising". I want to see some more good war footage with stuff 'splodin'!

I want to see people with horned helmets making the stuff 'splode!

Toad · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2005, 02:35:06 PM »

I can't believe you won't share your fish with some poor hungry Russians. Not to mention the deliberate spying on their fishing techniques so you can bring your own fish fleets up to the latest technology.

Nilsen · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2005, 02:39:37 PM »

Nilsen · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:30:41 PM »

Nice looking trawler.. with any luck a breeze will sink it soon

Furball · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:36:20 PM »

wrong picture, that is the pride of the russian navy sent to rescue the trawler.

Estel · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:45:40 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by storch
waiting patiently for boroda's brilliant response.

I'm not Boroda, but I will answer.

1. Trawler was intercepted by Norwegian patrol in so-called Norwegian Fishguarding zone of Spitsbergen.

2. This zone is not Norwegian territory.

3. The regulations about borders of the given zone are accepted only by Norway. Other countries, including Russia, did not sign agreements on the given territory wich is by default the international waters.

4. As we know, intercepting the ship in the international waters is piracy.

5. If our authorities will arrest those inspectors they will go to court on charge in a piracy.

Any questions?

Estel · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:49:12 PM »

Forgot to say. USA don't accept guarding zone too. So, you have time to delete your unpolite messages :-)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:51:14 PM »

What is over fishing? Just fishing too much past the limit?

Nilsen · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2005, 03:58:33 PM »

Trawler was inspected and caught cheating in the Norwegian economical zone. Even the Russian authorities knows and respects that. The russian media is reporting all kinds of strange things but thats not new. It is not unusal for Russian fishing ships to get caught and fined. Last time one was arrested was back in 2001.

Igor Dygalo who is the spokesperson for the Russian navy has said in public that the Russian navy will not interfer with attempts to get the inspectors back but are only going to follow the situation.

Estel · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2005, 04:01:46 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Nilsen
Trawler was inspected and caught cheating in the Norwegian economical zone.

Looks like you don't see difference between "economical zone" and "fishguarding zone". If you don't know, these things are different. The trawler was in "fishguarding zone".

Vulcan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2005, 04:02:41 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Estel
I'm not Boroda, but I will answer.

1. Trawler was intercepted by Norwegian patrol in so-called Norwegian Fishguarding zone of Spitsbergen.

2. This zone is not Norwegian territory.

3. The regulations about borders of the given zone are accepted only by Norway. Other countries, including Russia, did not sign agreements on the given territory wich is by default the international waters.

4. As we know, intercepting the ship in the international waters is piracy.

5. If our authorities will arrest those inspectors they will go to court on charge in a piracy.

Any questions?

So why did the trawler allow inspectors on board in the first place. Man, you are giving Russians the reputation of the worlds worst liars.

At least try and come up with a credible story next time estel.

Estel · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2005, 04:09:41 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Vulcan
So why did the trawler allow inspectors on board in the first place. Man, you are giving Russians the reputation of the worlds worst liars.

At least try and come up with a credible story next time estel.

Because of due to agreement of cooperated using of Sptisbergen they should do it. And not only russian trawlers, but any others.

At least try to use search engines to find information. And try to learn international law. It will be very helpfull to you. Especially when you are trying to make such idiotical posts.

Nilsen · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2005, 04:10:57 PM »

Estel has a point tho.. There are unresolved issues regarding borderes up north and around Svalbard. They have been that way for many many years, but both governments have an agreement that things shal stay the way they are until a permanent agreement can be made.

The current confrontation is not between the 2 governments, but between the Norwegian government and the Russian trawler and the company that owns it.

Vulcan · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2005, 04:14:00 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Estel
Because of due to agreement of cooperated using of Sptisbergen they should do it. And not only russian trawlers, but any others.

At least try to use search engines to find information. And try to learn international law. It will be very helpfull to you. Especially when you are trying to make such idiotical posts.

Ahh so the Russians did agree to the fishing zone then?

Why are you contradicting yourself?